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  •  pols being held to keeping their word? (3+ / 0-)
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    Trix, Lujane, Calamity Jean

    Now who is the silly rabbit?

    •  The promise to shield "near-retirees" from Social (1+ / 0-)
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      Security cuts during the Presidential election, probably won Repubs a few votes in 2012.  Personally, I never believed that (given the opportunity) the Repubs would follow through on this pledge.  And, it appears that the 'elites' of both parties (not necessarily all of the rank and file Dems) are determined to follow the "dictates" of the Fiscal Commission's recommendations, i.e., Bowles-Simpson's proposals.

      Please take a moment to read this relatively short proposal, The Moment Of Truth (PDF).  It lays out the recommended proposals, and approximately when they'll kick in.

      Here's the link.

      Indeed, they (the Fiscal Commission) break new ground by going after "current" retirees, if they pass and implement the "Chained or Superlative CPI."  For that matter, the Greenspan Commission's proposals mostly shielded those seniors in the near-retiree category, during the last major overhaul of Social Security.

      And don't forget, this Administration has never proposed to shield near-retiree seniors, starting with those age 55.  (In 2010, Alan Simpson made references to exempting seniors age 60 and older).

      The Administration's "framework" for Social Security cuts is the Bowles-Simpson Commission's proposals.  

      The President's own Chief-Of-Staff, Jack Lew, told Financial Times reporter, James Politi, in an interview about a year ago, that the Administration "supports all six pillars of Bowles-Simpson."  [I would link to it, but my subscription has expired, so I no longer have access to the FT video archive.  Sorry.]

      So, don't expect the Democrats to have the ability to make too much hay out of this change in the Republicans' proposal.

      At the most, it will help Dems mitigate the obvious unpopularity of their own proposed cuts to Social Security (which do not shield "near-seniors," starting with the 55-plus cohort).

      And, I guess that Dems could make the "flip flopper" charge against Repubs.  

      OTOH, expect the Repubs to point out that this was never a part of the Democrats' proposals.

      So, IMO, this will pretty much be "a wash."

      Mollie

      "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible." --Frank L. Gaines

      "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

      by musiccitymollie on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 04:58:06 PM PST

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      •  This would be so easy to fix if the congress (1+ / 0-)
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        just had the will instead of being hell bent on cutting the benefits associated with Social Security and Medicare.  Raise the cap on FICA contributions and negotiate drug prices in Medicare Part D.  Then watch the changes coming through the ACA and make adjustments depending on the results of those changes.

        The Republicans don't care about the deficit; they just want to come as closely as they can to destroying the programs.  And Democrats are just spooked by all the deficit talk.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 08:30:01 PM PST

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        •  I agree with some of your sentiments. I do think, (0+ / 0-)

          however, that the actual "deal" will be between the President and the Repub leadership.

          So, I believe, that while we need to lobby Congress, we must also diligently lobby the White House, and yes, even Speaker Boehner!  :-)

          Mollie

          "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible." --Frank L. Gaines

          "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson

          by musiccitymollie on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 08:35:06 PM PST

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        •  Or easy to fix if the government (1+ / 0-)
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          paid back the money BushCo embezzled from the SS Trust Fund.

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