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  •  OK I stand corrected I am obviously ignorant (0+ / 0-)

    of this vacation option except my three examples =
    but I bet those guys would
    count on the Coast Guard as well. Carnival is not even registered in the US - yet somehow the US Coast Guard is responsible for them

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 05:44:47 PM PST

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    •  depends on where they were when the engine blew (8+ / 0-)

      Yeah, they were probably outside the 12 mile limit - but still within an area where our Coasties were the closest available support.

      ANY vessel in distress will be answered by the closest Coast Guard - it might just have been ours.  To leave people out to sea is just cruel and republican - and people on a cruise ship are not able bodied seamen - they are just tourists on a big boat.

      And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

      by Mortifyd on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 05:51:20 PM PST

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      •  'is just republican' (2+ / 0-)
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        jakedog42, wilderness voice

        exactly the point - Romney wanted to cut all those evil gov't workers - who would've save these people if he had done that? This is the sort of thing that gets overlooked when people disparage gov't workers that we count on.

        "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

        by eXtina on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 05:58:56 PM PST

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      •  Well then how about if in the future the Coast (2+ / 0-)
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        Guard just removes all the passengers (and crew, if desired) and their luggage from the ship and then aside from one boat to keep an eye on things leaves the ship to mostly fend for itself?

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 06:53:47 PM PST

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        •  TTBO - the Coast Guard doesn't have a ship (3+ / 0-)
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          eXtina, wilderness voice, Mortifyd

          large enough to take 10% of the passengers from a big cruise ship.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 07:08:55 PM PST

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          •  exactly (3+ / 0-)
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            eXtina, VClib, ZenTrainer

            there is simply nothing big enough in the CG to manage the kind of removal being suggested here.  

            And even if the CG does remove someone you're dying or sinking - you can forget about your luggage and be glad they are saving your ass.

            This ship was in no danger of sinking.  They had an engine fire.  Outside the 12 mile limit it's perfectly legal to dispose of human waste overboard.  They didn't have to shit in the showers.  

            In fact, it appears from Reuters that the passengers were told to use provided bags for toilet needs and many simply did not, using the sinks and showers instead and expecting the crew to clean it up.  There's just no excuse for that kind of behaviour.

            COMPENSATION OFFER

            Cahill has issued several apologies and Carnival, the world's largest cruise company, said passengers will be reimbursed in full, plus transportation expenses, a future cruise credit equal to the amount paid for this voyage, and an additional payment of $500 per person to help compensate them for the ordeal.

             Reuters

            Cruise lines are pretty heavily legally protected, we won't likely see any big law suits.  

            And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

            by Mortifyd on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 08:48:34 PM PST

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            •  That "free" cruise that might not be: see details (1+ / 0-)
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              eXtina

              I noticed something in the language in the middle of the compensation offer you just posted above. In particular this clause:

              ...a future cruise credit equal to the amount paid for this voyage,...
              I would take that to mean that should (when) Carnival raises it's rates, anyone who takes up this offer will almost certainly have to shell out more money, possibly a lot more money.
              •  splitting hairs (2+ / 0-)
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                eXtina, Mortifyd

                Means if you want a better room or a longer cruise you can apply the credit.

                I think Carnivals offer sucks. ($2500 seems about the least they could do. )

                Victory is sweet-November 6, 2012

                by al23 on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 07:07:27 AM PST

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              •  I am a sailor (1+ / 0-)
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                eXtina

                I wouldn't be caught dead on one of those things to begin with - and even if by some 9th circle of hell business I was, I would know better than to shit in a sink.  

                Carnival is the Volde*Mart of cruises - cheap is their whole concept.

                And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

                by Mortifyd on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 10:04:48 AM PST

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                •  the only time I've ever seen that in my lifetime (0+ / 0-)

                  was in a Starbucks bathroom

                  "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

                  by eXtina on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 04:11:24 PM PST

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