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  •  In news reports about the meteor (11+ / 0-)

    strike, I kept hearing some 'official' said one of the first things they were ensuring was that the city's "central heating system" was functional. This sounded to me like they'd planned the city to take advantage of waste heat from the industries nearby. No doubt including their nuclear facilities as well as things like that zinc foundry, etc.

    We're talking Siberia here. It's f*cking cold there this time of year. If you were going to plan a scientific/industrial city of more than a million people in Siberia, wouldn't you think it was a good idea to put all that wasted heat to good use? That requires concentrated living conditions.

    •  You see it in a lot of places. (9+ / 0-)

      The hotel we stayed in near Novouralsk was miles outside of town but had that as a heat source. Which gave rise to some strange phenomena, such as a shortage of cold running water in the winter and no hot water in the summer. The hot water pipes ran along the ground surface; schoolkids used them as convenient sidewalks in the winer. They were about a meter in diameter with the insulation on them, just about the right height to be at the top of the snow a lot of  the time. At intersections they routed them over the cross streets at a height sufficient to clear trucks. The heat source was not nuclear there. However, at Seversk (north of Tomsk, hence the name) they carried waste heat from the plutonium production reactors. Which explains why they ran them for a few decades after they had all the Pu they needed. One thing we Americans did for Seversk and another place or two was to help fund some coal-fired plants so they could finally shut the nukes- RBMKs of course- down.

      I could go on about other interesting features of Russia, but that was something you don't see in very many other places.

      Moderation in most things.

      by billmosby on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 09:58:45 PM PST

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    •  We have it here in NYC to some extent (7+ / 0-)

      - steam powered heat and hot water. That's what many people didn't understand after Hurricane Sandy. For quite a few buildings, even after long delays to have electricity back on, there was no heat or hot water. And for other buildings it was the opposite, they had heat and hot water from steam, but had no independent back-up generation to run the pump to move water onto the roof to refill the tank, or move hot water (steam heated) around the building.

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