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  •  Northern Europe is not socialist (6+ / 0-)

    I own part of Nokia and the means of production there is certainly privately owned.

    Sweden, Germany et al are capitalist societies with a broad safety net.

    "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Thomas Paine

    by shrike on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 03:06:41 PM PST

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    •  With universal health care... (5+ / 0-)

      ....government funded higher education, social safety nets (as you admitted), gun control, and corporate regulation that saved them from fully falling prey to the current economic collapse.

      In other words, a Stalinist hell!

      Don't let the blue eyes and blond hair fool you. Inside they are all a bunch of science believing Kenyans!

      Sure the means of production are not owned by the government, but is the government owned by the means of production? No? Then the Republicans call it socialist.

      •  Did you mean Keynesians? (1+ / 0-)
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        Dave in Columbus

        I think the Scandanvians have excellent social programs, but pretty soon it's going to be evident to a lot of people that core Europe is filled with Austrian economists worse than Milton Friedman.

        There are two kinds of people in this world. The kind who divide the world into two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

        by upstate NY on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:20:40 PM PST

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    •  Compared to America, (0+ / 0-)

      Northern Europe/Scandinavia is capital-S Socialist. No matter how successful. clean, and fulfilled those countries are, no "real patriotic Amurrikun" would ever allow their systems to be imported here. Because... um... Jeezus would cry. Or something. ;-)

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