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  •  I remember that instance. (1+ / 0-)
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    FishOutofWater

    The user spent a lot of time near the edge and was banned for several weeks but has since been reinstated.

    •  Do you remember the one the other night (9+ / 0-)

      ...when someone was banned for referring to a sniper who loved to brag about his kills in books -- as a "killer," in his opinion in an otherwise lovely Diary?

      And for only the sixth time in five years a Diary was actually removed because a gunny was offended?



      Denial is a drug.

      by Pluto on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:06:51 PM PST

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      •  No (0+ / 0-)

        I don't remember.

        •  Gee, I'd link you to the Diary, but.... (4+ / 0-)
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          Mnemosyne, poco, Avila, Yasuragi

          Maybe you might like to see Diaries featuring goatse or two girls one cup, instead?

          Those certainly don't meet the standards for removal.

          The link's around here someplace....



          Denial is a drug.

          by Pluto on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:30:55 PM PST

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          •  Can you identify the author or some commenters (4+ / 0-)
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            Yasuragi, tommymet, MGross, Avila

            Or point to comments discussing its deletion?

            •  blueness (3+ / 0-)
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              Mnemosyne, JoanMar, Yasuragi

              myself.  Pluto.  yasuragi.  mahakali overdrive.  princesspat.

              some militia types.

            •  don't mind saying his name (3+ / 0-)
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              Mnemosyne, JoanMar, Yasuragi

              it is blueness.  the very best, most eclectic, brilliant writer to ever grace this site.  

              damn shame about blueness.  

              there's a very long, ugly history of martyring the best of us to appease a crowd of idiots.  case closed.

              •  You mean the person who has claimed ... (0+ / 0-)

                to be a being from another planet?  This in a "reality-based" community?

                "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                by Neuroptimalian on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 06:13:08 PM PST

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                •  No. She meant... (3+ / 0-)
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                  Avila, Yasuragi, poco
                  the very best, most eclectic, brilliant writer to ever grace this site.

                  Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

                  by JoanMar on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 06:26:57 PM PST

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                •  there's a lot you don't know (3+ / 0-)
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                  JoanMar, Yasuragi, poco

                  i don't know, either, but i will not claim otherwise.  i believe you read him wrong.  

                  if he said that to me, i'd hear him out, though.

                  •  Nope, didn't read it wrong: (0+ / 0-)

                    From Blueness' comment of Jan 20:

                    "They are also accurate because I am only visiting this planet, and you people are so whacked-fucking-out, and bleedingly knuckledragging, that it boggles the goddam collective mind, and it is great good fortune that there are damn great loads of opium here, else I never would have survived on this barren mad rock as long as I have."
                    Then there was the "confirmation", downthread:
                    "on my home planet, a creepy-crawly snuffling knuckedragging vandal like yourself, just . . . dries up, and blows away."
                    Then again, the diary this came from was quite the departure from reality, so who can say anything for sure.  I will never forget the diarist's use of the phrase "ululate without surcease"; that's one for the books, for sure.  MANY readers interpreted the attempt at pretentiousness similarly.

                    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                    by Neuroptimalian on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 07:52:13 PM PST

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                    •  :) Brilliant writer, isn't he? (3+ / 0-)
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                      Avila, Yasuragi, poco

                      "Attempt at pretentiousness?" What does that even mean?

                      Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

                      by JoanMar on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 07:56:16 PM PST

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                      •  Perhaps the poster didn't (3+ / 0-)
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                        fully grasp the phrase.

                        "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                        by Yasuragi on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:00:37 PM PST

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                        •  He was confounded. (3+ / 0-)
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                          Yasuragi, Avila, poco

                          And that's why blueness is

                          the very best, most eclectic, brilliant writer to ever grace this site.  

                          Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

                          by JoanMar on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:05:35 PM PST

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                          •  What you said! n/t (3+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, JoanMar, poco

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:23:40 PM PST

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                          •  I'm no "he". (0+ / 0-)

                            I AM glad as hell that the person is gone, especially given her/his/its history of egotistic claims that she/he/it would outlast certain specific others here on DKos.  

                            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                            by Neuroptimalian on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 09:10:12 PM PST

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                          •  Oh I see. You want only people (3+ / 0-)
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                            with whom you agree on this site. Pity.
                            Astounding in the narrow mindedness.

                            Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

                            by JoanMar on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 04:50:22 AM PST

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                          •  It has nothing to do with "disagreement", ... (0+ / 0-)

                            but I do expect cohesive expression of thought, which was completely absent.

                            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                            by Neuroptimalian on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 10:48:29 AM PST

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                          •  Bluesness (0+ / 0-)

                            was like a free oxide radical ... naturally occurring, but quite toxic.

                            She proved herself infatuated with her own sense of corrosive prose or poetry ... more than sensible discourse.

                            But what do I know ...

                          •  who (2+ / 0-)
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                            poco, Yasuragi

                            is Bluesness, and whatever are you referring to?  

                            But what do I know ...
                          •  I don't miss him. However, he was banned for (0+ / 0-)

                            completely bullshit reasons.

                            income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

                            by JesseCW on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 11:29:12 AM PST

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                          •  so Jesse (1+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi

                            the ideals most of us here claim we fervently believe in, i.e. injustice against one is injustice against all, are just empty words?

                            i don't discriminate.  i'd fight for somebody on your side, because i know injustice will eventually come around to mine.

                          •  how revealing (2+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, poco

                            this is really quite an insightful statement from you.

                            I AM glad as hell that the person is gone, especially given her/his/its history of egotistic claims that she/he/it would outlast certain specific others here on DKos.
                            "certain specific others," as though neuroptimalians are somehow sacred?

                            you feel happiness that a beloved contributor is no longer with us because "egotistical claims" of longevity disturb you.

                          •  Oh FFS. (sigh) (1+ / 0-)
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                            Tortured Body Wasted Brains

                            I was not one of the people involved in those exchanges.  Clearly, you haven't even bothered to read the comments following that diary of pure absurdity which further confirmed that a deeply disturbed individual was its author, yet you're willing to thoroughly embarrass yourself by continuing to defend such psychopathy without knowing what you're talking about?  

                            What is gained in falsely claiming that a contributor is "beloved" when, in fact, it had hundreds of readers laughing in derision for each "fan" (of which there seem to be only three or four) it might have been able to claim?  That's hardly the kind of fame any sane and sober person would purposefully seek.  But knock yourself out if you must; spending time trying to defend lunacy online is likely keeping the streets safer for others for at least a little while.

                            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                            by Neuroptimalian on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 12:04:06 AM PST

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                          •  to reiterate: you don't know (2+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, poco

                            of whom you speak, or anything whatsoever about this individual.  you love to talk smack and innuendo about him, and present your ill-informed, errant conclusions as fact, but i don't see any evidence in support of your claims, or any person defending you.  i'm not surprised, 'cuz what you have said isn't defensible.

                            further confirmed that a deeply disturbed individual
                            even if you were qualified to make an assessment of someone's state of mind (obviously, you're not), your only basis is written material on a blog, which is nowhere near standards of diagnostic criteria.

                            that is embarrassing.  it's the despicable kind of cheap shot that requires no skill at all.  you don't know the individual in question.  you aren't qualified to diagnose the emotional status of a guppy.  

                            falsely claiming that a contributor is "beloved"
                            again, you have determined this claim isn't valid based on . . . . __?  

                            the contributor is beloved.  actual and factual.  you know that 'cuz I gave it to you.  (and only because i did.)  please proceed.

                            hundreds of readers laughing in derision for each "fan"
                            hundreds?  i've asked you to cite one.  you have not.  you cannot.
                            trying to defend lunacy online
                            irrelevant.  asked and answered above.  (you haven't the credentials to diagnose mental status based on online postings. no one is qualified to do so.)

                            the obvious conclusions i infer are envy, and false entitlement.  i suspect this is because you know that no one would defend you if by chance, you were called on your childish, vindictive, untrue impressions stated as fact.  no one would notice.  

                            jealous of a writer on a blog? that is embarrassing.  

                          •  "Envy"? "Jealous" of a banned poster? (0+ / 0-)

                            Hypocritical much?  Now you're thinking you're qualified to diagnose me?  Bless your heart, you've bumped your little head.  Further, the comments of a person too lazy (or worse) to bother even capitalizing sentences aren't worthy of further contemplation.

                            Blueness is gone, hopefully forever.  Time for you to deal with it.  I had nothing to do with it, but I sure won't miss its pathetic style of incoherent ramblings.  If you do, I assume you know where to find its blog.  

                            Lastly, as to your repeated false claims that I've failed to identify the source of things I've said, I've given the link to the diary and comments to which I referred.  I won't waste the time quoting from it further as I refuse to be forced to read that drivel yet again.  If you prefer to continue to deny its contents, the intellectual dishonesty of taking that position is on you.  Meanwhile, the diary remains for everyone else to view and know the truth.  

                            As twigg likes to say, I'm done with you now.  You may respond, but rest assured that I won't bother to read further comments.

                            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                            by Neuroptimalian on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 01:22:46 AM PST

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                          •  The diary does NOT remain. (2+ / 0-)
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                            poco, Avila

                            It's been deleted, apparently in a snit of fury by a lower-level admin.

                            And I believe Avila was simply turning your presumptions around on you to demonstrate the unreasonableness of your comment.

                            I could be wrong, of course, and maybe that's what she really feels...

                            blueness has nearly 300 followers.  Get over it already.

                            The only reason we keep coming back to this dead thread is that you keep arguing.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:01:43 AM PST

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                          •  The diary I cited most certainly IS still online. (1+ / 2-)
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                            Avila, poco

                            Right here.  Lying about it doesn't make it go away.  And btw, "following" someone hardly confirms they're a "fan"; it could just as easily mean (and in this case, most likely does mean) they want to be alerted when the next chapter of craziness comes out.

                            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                            by Neuroptimalian on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:20:53 AM PST

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                          •  The diary orignally the topic of this conversation (2+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, poco

                            has been deleted -- and it was not an unreasonable assumption for me to make that it was that one to which you were referring.

                            I do not lie.  And fuck you for that accusation.  HR if you like: I have not HR'd you only because it's forbidden to use hide rates against someone you're arguing with.

                            This has descended to petty name-calling and you making obnoxious presumptions.  Three hundred people do not follow a diarist here just to see what they'll do next.

                            Perhaps you do, but that's not my business.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 11:01:41 AM PST

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                          •  I did not make "obnoxious presumptions", ... (1+ / 0-)
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                            Tortured Body Wasted Brains

                            you did.  I gave a link earlier in this thread that linked directly to the diary I was referring to, provided two quotes from it, and distinguished it from the diary that had been deleted.  The mistake is entirely on you, as is the embarrassment of exposing yourself as having been too lazy to actually verify your false presumption before attacking.  I'm betting the people in your personal life aren't too happy when you do that either, but that's not my business.

                            Adios.

                            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                            by Neuroptimalian on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 11:45:02 AM PST

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                          •  Don't let the door hit you where the good (1+ / 0-)
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                            Avila

                            lord split you.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 11:50:44 AM PST

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                          •  embarrassment (1+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi

                            seems to be one of your preoccupations.  understandably.  with every comment, you embarrass yourself.

                          •  I actually regret losing my temper. (2+ / 0-)
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                            poco, Avila

                            Wish I'd simply pointed out, since the poster had no apparent issue with blue's substance but only (it would seem) his words, that she simply not read him.

                            Would've been so much tidier all around.  ;)

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 02:04:35 PM PST

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                          •  i was actually (3+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, poco, JoanMar

                            awed by your restraint.  i had to walk away more than once. ;)

                          •  Well, thanks, but... (3+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, poco, JoanMar

                            not so much.  

                            If I hadn't been so angry I would have made my cogent point (above... if it is in fact cogent...) and backed away.  Slowly.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 04:09:30 PM PST

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                          •  You seem awfully concerned about (2+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, poco

                            embarrassment.  The only person who can embarrass me is myself.  And I feel none of that.  Gosh, I forgot you brought in to a discussion of a deleted diary a completely irrelevant one.

                            And I thought we were finished with all this.

                            As I said to a friend below, all your arguments are about blueness's words.  If you don't like his words, don't fucking read him.  

                            I haven't heard a substantive argument from you as to why he should have been banned.  Which is what this thread was about to begin with.  Either stick to the topic or leave it alone.

                            ...And isn't it time we give up this pettiness?  I, for one, and really, really, really tired of it.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 06:33:26 AM PST

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                          •  HR - accusation of lying (2+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, poco

                            Yasuragi does not lie, and the proof of this matter is easily demonstrable.  diary in question was in fact deleted.  

                          •  Diary I CITED AND QUOTED was NOT deleted. (2+ / 1-)

                            Idiot.

                            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                            by Neuroptimalian on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 12:30:35 PM PST

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                          •  name-calling (2+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, poco

                            2 strikes.  

                            if you can't keep up, it doesn't follow that those who have are liars.

                          •  ?? (2+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, JoanMar

                            ask yourself who's the idiot who bills by the hour.  ;)

                          •  I said I'd never again respond to you, ... (1+ / 0-)
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                            but I simply can't resist this time, considering how you've left yourself WIDE open.

                            I bill $850 for every hour of time I spend on a case.  And for every case I win, which luckily so far has been 100%, I receive a huge bonus.  You?  

                            Well, THAT blew up in your smug little face, didn't it.  Bwahahah!!!

                            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                            by Neuroptimalian on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 07:55:20 AM PST

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                          •  nope (2+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, JoanMar

                            i have become so accustomed to your empty words and false statements, in the span of a couple of days, i simply don't believe anything you say. ;)

                          •  And what difference does that make? (3+ / 0-)
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                            Good Christ, are you equating income with worth?  With intelligence?  With substance?

                            How incredibly empty that is.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 01:30:08 PM PST

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                          •  Also... (3+ / 0-)
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                            poco, JoanMar, Avila

                            I seem to recall (precisely, thanks to copy/paste) you saying -- a long time ago now, and many posts by you under the bridge --

                            I'm done with you now.  You may respond, but rest assured that I won't bother to read further comments.
                            If I were going to engage in the same kind of presumptions about your character as you have in ours, I would say you thrive on the petty insults and name-calling of those you clearly perceive to be lower life forms to your glorious (and price-gouging) self, and that's why you won't let this thread die its long overdue death.

                            Except that I don't make presumptions about other people.  You seem to have that covered just fine.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 01:38:28 PM PST

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                          •  And we believe every word you write, braggart. (2+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, Yasuragi

                            Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

                            by JoanMar on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 04:45:10 PM PST

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                          •  hmmm (3+ / 0-)
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                            not a subscriber.

                            I bill $850 for every hour of time I spend on a case.  And for every case I win, which luckily so far has been 100%, I receive a huge bonus.
                          •  Interesting... (2+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, poco

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 11:01:11 AM PST

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                          •  less than 2% of ONE hour (2+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, poco

                            from Super-Wealthy neuroptmalian, who since 2008, apparently thinks Daily Kos ain't worth even that tiny amount?

                            how insulting.  

                            1% vibe.

                          •  Shocking. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, poco

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 03:32:40 PM PST

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                          •  do you suppose (2+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, poco

                            it might be that hideous no-name problem? ;)

                            i kind of doubt it with this one . . .

                          •  How totally bizarre! (2+ / 0-)
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                            Who can say...?

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 06:29:09 PM PST

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                          •  i mean, there's (1+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi

                            cheap, and then there's flat-out fabrication.  ;)

                          •  What you said. (1+ / 0-)
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                            Avila

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 07:38:59 PM PST

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                          •  -snerk- (1+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi

                            literal spit take.  you crack me UP! can't see this one as a compulsive putter-on of eight shades of eye shadow, can you? ;)

                          •  Oh, I don't know... (1+ / 0-)
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                            Avila

                            Narcissism displays itself in all kinds of unexpected ways.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 03:12:23 AM PST

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                          •  HR: name-calling. (2+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, JoanMar

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 06:39:57 AM PST

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                          •  interesting (3+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi, poco, JoanMar

                            the recs on that comment, no?

                          •  Amusing, even. (3+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, poco, JoanMar

                            In an unfunny kinda way.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 01:28:24 PM PST

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                          •  read my mind, Yas (1+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi

                            and not for the first time. ;)  this individual has vowed not to respond to me, and i doubt his/her veracity and self discipline, but you understood.  i knew you would.

                            jealousy is truly an ugly preoccupation with that one, no?

                          •  Seriously. Among other things like (2+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, poco

                            accusing those who disagree with lying.

                            Will be staying well clear, if possible, in the future.

                            It wasn't hard to follow your logic -- you would never be so obvious as to write what you did right after condemning the very same behavior.  Apparently, though, you're far too subtle.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 02:07:34 PM PST

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                          •  overestimated (2+ / 0-)
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                            anything like intelligence.  too reactionary to understand our attempts at logic or diplomacy, but you know, the lack of impulse control, coupled with packing heat, doesn't make me feel any better about so-called responsible gun owners.  this particular double-whammy is very troubling to me.

                          •  Seriously. :( n/t (2+ / 0-)
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                            Avila, poco

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 03:01:06 PM PST

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                          •  empty words (1+ / 0-)
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                            Yasuragi
                            I'm done with you now.  You may respond, but rest assured that I won't bother to read further comments.
                            four replies and one hidden comment later.  

                            you're not going to change my mind, and i doubt you'll convince anyone else.  i'm not interested in reading any more of your defamation against someone who isn't present to defend himself.  

                            next time you feel compelled to diagnose mental status on the internet, i suggest you use more caution in your choice of who to libel.

                          •  Sneck. (1+ / 0-)
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                            Because I think a little lightness is called for.

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 06:54:06 AM PST

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                          •  thank you SO much (1+ / 0-)
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                            i haven't had a sneck in months! ;)

                          •  There it was at the top of the page: (1+ / 0-)
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                            299.  What sneck-loving Kossack could resist?  

                            Like so many other things in life, you gotta get joy where you can find it.  ;)

                            "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                            by Yasuragi on Thu Feb 21, 2013 at 01:27:50 PM PST

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                          •  You could be much more articulate (0+ / 0-)

                            in your point ... but I fully agree with your conclusion.

                            Is the issue language or perspective?

                            You seem confused.

                    •  "ululate without cease" (3+ / 0-)
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                      has never failed to make me laugh out loud.  

                      so you read everything on the internet as literal fact?

                      blueness would laugh that you actually called that up-there a "confirmation."  care to tell me who the "MANY" are? damn if he didn't play you like a dollar store flute.

                    •  tap, tap (2+ / 0-)
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                      still waiting on the "MANY."  here's a refresher.

                      I will never forget the diarist's use of the phrase "ululate without surcease"; that's one for the books, for sure.  MANY readers interpreted the attempt at pretentiousness similarly.
              •  This: (3+ / 0-)
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                the very best, most eclectic, brilliant writer to ever grace this site.  

                "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

                by Yasuragi on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 07:57:24 PM PST

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          •  Maybe Goatse for kids... (1+ / 0-)
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            Daddy, what's that man doing to his bottom?

            In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy

            by boriscleto on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 06:04:49 PM PST

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          •  it was -deleted- (1+ / 0-)
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            not by the user.   hth.

        •  here's the diary (3+ / 0-)
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          at blueness' website, word for word.  

          it was deleted here.  

          he was banned.  

      •  I thought the offence was in rejoicing the death (4+ / 0-)

        of someone based on their service to their country in the armed forces.

        I might well disagree with wars we have and sniping is a horrible job to have, I'd think it drives many around the bend, but I can't fault someone for doing what our country wants them to legally do.

        How big is your personal carbon footprint?

        by ban nock on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:33:27 PM PST

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        •  There was no rejoicing. (6+ / 0-)

          There were prayers and the poetry of Kenneth Patchen.

          The only rejoicing of someone's death I've seen here is Daily Kos members rejoicing over the murder of Osama Bin Laden.



          Denial is a drug.

          by Pluto on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:38:03 PM PST

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          •  not the same (2+ / 0-)
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            comparing an american vet to obl....no, not gonna work now. blueness tried it, didn't work there either.

               And that was something easily found by the family and just way out of bounds...accurate to some degree of ivory tower poetry conflating parsitude, but unnecessarily cruel.

            I am kinda sad to see you're remarks about that deleted diary, the ' rejoicing' was pretty descriptive actually, ah spose ymmv.

            i was amazed that Patchen's poetry would be found in such company as the remarks in that diary, a certain blasphemy imo.

            ok, back to the ho meta.

            This machine kills Fascists.

            by KenBee on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 09:00:34 PM PST

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        •  dude, you read -what-? (3+ / 0-)

          i read the same diary.  there was absolutely NO rejoicing in the death of anyone.  that was stated explicitly in the italicized portion below.

          not surprised that readers of this site would fucking hide-rate Kenneth Patchen.  

          even though obviously The Dumb is accepted and even celebrated here, it's a new nadir.  shameful.

          It's simple. There's nothing at all complicated about it.
          War—There won't be war when you decide you won't murder other human beings.

          You cannot hate without hating all; and you cannot kill some without killing all—because the welfare of any man is the welfare of all men. Through violence men are made to enslave and murder one another; through violence the world has been turned into this unimaginable hell; through violence the rulers of this hell are enabled to maintain their positions.

          Have you ever looked at a man?
          There is something helpless and majestic about a man.
          If you believed in anything, you could not kill a man.

          A man has two legs.
          He'll build a house—from cellar to rooftop—with his own hands.
          He'll put seeds in the ground.
          He'll watch the sun and the rain at work.
          He'll take a woman to bed.
          He'll find enough tenderness and love to get him through the day.
          You'd think that man deserved a little something.
          You'd think that man was worthy of a jot or two of sympathy and consideration.
          You'd think that maybe someone would say:
          Let's just let him alone for a while, and see what he can do.

          They try to fix it so nobody'll care what happens to a man anymore.
          I don't mean millions—I mean any one man anywhere.
          If anything is worth anything it's because one man is worth something.
          If any one man isn't worth something, then nothing whatever is worth anything.
          It's all got to come back to any one man anywhere or it isn't going anywhere.
          Don't tell me how interested in Confucius or Jesus Christ you are.
          Tell me how interested in any one man anywhere you are.
          You don't get it.
          You'd cry.
          You'd cry, if you could feel that.
          It's all got to come back to one man or it isn't going anywhere at all.
          This house. Do you see this house?
          It is a house where human beings live.
          There is a strange dignity about them.
          They are looking at you as I talk.
          I want you to leave them alone.

          --Kenneth Patchen

      •  I do. I thought the banning was excessive. (10+ / 0-)

        Guess I'm a wimp for not saying so more vociferously then.

        Some DKos series & groups worth your while: Black Kos, Native American Netroots, KosAbility, Monday Night Cancer Club. If you'd like to join the Motor City Kossacks, send me a Kosmail.

        by peregrine kate on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:56:20 PM PST

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      •  i remember (6+ / 0-)
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        and that was seriously messed up, imo.  why HR prayers and Kenneth Patchen?  why did that need to be deleted and user banned?  it literally defies understanding.

      •  Yes. (5+ / 0-)
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        Have written to His Own Self on the matter (crickets) in protest.

        That was obscene and injust, and we need that diarist back.

        "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

        by Yasuragi on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 05:02:46 AM PST

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      •  I am as far from a fan of Blueness as it's (2+ / 0-)
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        possible to be - but that banning was complete bullshit.

        Blueness was banned for telling the truth.

        I thought Blueness had deleted the diary prior to being banned.  It's even more disgusting that it was actually a cover up.

        income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

        by JesseCW on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 11:27:18 AM PST

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        •  Not only was the diary deleted, but (1+ / 0-)
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          there wasn't one comment by blueness in the hiddens.

          Total bullshit hissy-fit banning, apparently based on a personal opinion.

          "Throwing a knuckleball for a strike is like throwing a butterfly with hiccups across the street into your neighbor's mailbox." -- Willie Stargell

          by Yasuragi on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 08:03:59 AM PST

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    •  I have used asterisks as in Breakfast of Champions (5+ / 0-)
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      Fortunately, no chains of pearls broke and I wasn't banned.

      look for my eSci diary series Thursday evening.

      by FishOutofWater on Sun Feb 17, 2013 at 05:09:26 PM PST

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