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  •  Selling the GWOT and Humanitarian (9+ / 0-)

    interventions.  It's hard to hold our own government accountable for past actions when it continues with the same actions elsewhere.  People seem to think the Iraq war is the only illegal, immoral war and ignore what is happening around the globe with the GWOT and regime change operations in Syria and Libya.  Talk about selling a war, the GWOT is one of the top sellers of all time, set to go for decades at the top of the pop charts.  Or until we get another republican president.  

    "The Global War OF Terror is a justification for U.S. Imperialism. It must be stopped."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:21:37 AM PST

    •  Not many recs for this, (5+ / 0-)

      but it's a top comment just the same.

    •  Well (3+ / 0-)

      You're right, especially when those fighting hard to just as quickly pick up the tea buckets and carry them for the guilty. The almost in unison pro peace movement as to the whole flock of the guilty and pointing the fingers at the new incoming and continue that to today and will beyond!!

      Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

      by jimstaro on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:35:23 AM PST

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    •  The AUFM (2+ / 0-)
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      based and sold on lies, propaganda and fear is the origin of all the twisty legal justification used by this Democratic administration to this day. It has enabled all the odious legislation  like NDAA, the new Partiot Act with the super secret sauce, FISA, NRA,  der Homeland Security. Why did Obama appoint one of the 'architect's the Bushies endless war on terror as head of the Spooks? This administration has built on the AUFM and expanded the GWOT, even declared under it auspices that the world is now the battleground and the enemy is anyone anywhere who is declared a terrorist.

      Our government all of it R's and D's alike have created on the base of the AUFM  the security state here and  and unleashed the MIC and CIA in a endless global non nation state war. Obama talked about 'smart wars' when he campaigned and yet... we now have eternal warfare fought against any humans who threaten us preemptively (pre criminal) based on the authorization given to the MIC. Nothing smart about any of this on any level.

      Thanks Al as people seem unwilling to connect what is going on in a Democratic administration to the original architects both Democratic and Republican that enacted and set in motion the immoral illegal endless war that used 9/11 to authorize this madness and crimanality. They didn't prosecute the war criminals or repair the damage to universal law and human and civil rights both here and globally instead they built on it. They used the power grabbed by the Bushies and expanded it.                  

      •  You All (1+ / 0-)
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        used by this Democratic administration to this day
        Left everything on the table and quickly walked away, carry the tea buckets, any and all accountability!!

        Don't just lay this on the administration, we are the government, unless of course you miss the cheney/bush style!!!!

        Vets On FLOTUS and SLOTUS, "Best - Ever": "We haven't had this kind of visibility from the White House—ever." Joyce Raezer - Dec. 30, 2011

        by jimstaro on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 01:02:28 PM PST

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        •  Hey I marched against the war (0+ / 0-)

          wrote letters to my Democratic reps, worked grassroots for liberal candidates and took to the Internet and dkos to fight against this slide into the dark. I worked for Dean and was anti-war including Afghanistan. I saw terrorism as blow back form our anti-human anti democratic foriegn policy.  

          As for 'we are the government' we no longer have any choice as the electoral system is as broken as the rest of our government. I participated in OWS and will no longer vote for the best of the same evil. I became politically active in the Democratic party in 2000 as I was horrified by the RW bushies.  I was requited by a Green after the selection of Bush to join the Democrat's. She said we need to undo this RW coup and form left coalitions within  the Democratic party.    

          Now I know after a decade of this bs. political kabuki that it was a by-partisan coup. None of us are the government any more, all we get to do is ratify which criminal enterprise we prefer Goldman Sachs or Bain? Hillary, who is a bad ass bomb Iran fan or Obama who at least during the primary talked diplomacy. Once he voted for FISA I quit his campaign as it just wasn't a vote I could support.  I still voted for him, look at our choice. Like I said, we no longer vote for representation or even decent lawful governance. Our consent is extorted.

          So don't give me or my liberal neighbors, family crap and blame. Nancy took the prescribed remedy off the table and I'm no fan or supporter of the Third Way endless warrior Dems who own the Democratic party. I certainly knew they were complicit during the Bush regime and along with many people here and in the real world, did what we could to stop the by-partisan slide to the Dark Side. I'm not even a Rachael fan as she is far too much a partisan to connect the dots that lead to the Democratic implementation of the bogus GWOT. She catapults the propaganda for the status quo third Way Dems.

          You tell me the blame lies with 'we the people' when the reality is we have no choice? I campaigned for Kerry and the young un's in my district would say Coke or Pepsi forget it. They were right and time has showed this was true. I think that people were sick of Bush Cheney they went too far so they voted for audacious bottom up Change. They took the Obama bait and instead got the by-partisan corporate, endless unitary powered war, along with the viscous neoliberal/neocon NWO.


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