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  •  good morning (6+ / 0-)

    is the tide turning here at DK?

    it was almost a guaranteed HR to say negative things about Obama

    the other day, several diaries about golf during the protest Feb 17 at DC over KXL - whose side is he on

    than diary today with one paragraph by Pierce at Esquire which takes Obama and the 1% to task. Many follow up comments about the reality of what Obama, dems and others have done to our country. Title of diary is:


    Link to diary

    Early this morning I read the Feb 27 Rolling Stone. I had seen some of this before here and other places, but I am going to save this issue and put it in a protective cover because it is a good summary of what we have become as a country. Rather than repeat what I said in that comment, I am going to link it here.

    •  For awhile (6+ / 0-)

      things will be focused more on issues and accountability, but when kos switches the focus to elections again, it will go back to the way it was, imho.  There has been a pattern over the years, pretty much.   I suspect there will be some organized push back to the heavy criticism too, after the talking points get handed out :)

      Some of it might be ramping up now. Last night I saw an unhinged diary about Greenwald from the other day.  

      "Justice is a commodity"

      by joanneleon on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 06:26:20 AM PST

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      •   unhinged diary(ies) (4+ / 0-)
        "Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar."
        ~ Edward R. Murrow

        Help me to be the best Wavy Gravy I can muster

        by BOHICA on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 06:34:34 AM PST

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      •  unhinged diary on Greenwald - but push back (5+ / 0-)

        note that what got the diary started was Greenwald pointing out that MSNBC has become an Obama is wonderful station

        the diary got lots and lots of comments, and a bunch of push back

        it didn't make it to the REC list as far as I saw

        the net result in my opinion was that more people were exposed to Greenwald

        the diary today with the one paragraph from Esquire is like several Greenwald columns all in one

        it is a real take down of Obama and political system

        but it is published and lots of agreement as people come out of the woods

        Furthermore, in my opinion, things are now MUCH WORSE, and MUCH MORE SERIOUS so that it will not be possible to simple play the game of politics and sweep things under the rug.

        I think in the anti Greenwald diary I made a comment asking if Obama was going to be the worst president in history. Most of the comments were about how to score who is best and worst. But what I had was a list of things going on right now like environment collapse, global economic collapse, slavery for all of us, 1% winning, etc. Kind of like the things in the one paragraph from Esquire.

        OWS tactics are being used by the environment movement these days and not going away.

        •  Diarist framed it well (4+ / 0-)

          It didn't single Obama out and instead targeted the office of the presidency.  Which is true.  I've been reading a lot lately about things I missed related to the Vietnam war, Iran Contra, etc.  Last night I was reading about the Tet Offensive and Operation Phoenix. Rendition, torture, targeted killing, massacres.  

          What makes Obama so different though, is that he is trying to codify some of these things.  Things that were recognized as war crimes before are being justified, codified.  They used to go to great lengths to hide these things.

          "Justice is a commodity"

          by joanneleon on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 07:05:08 AM PST

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    •  The pendulum swings back and forth (2+ / 0-)
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      enhydra lutris, ek hornbeck

      but the truth is not in the center.

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