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  •  Events never exist in a vacuum (3+ / 0-)

    but that doesn't mean we can simply abandon the effort to tease out common threads of meaning.

    A vast majority of Americansagreed in decades gone by, agreed strongly that no one should be allowed to spread Communist opinions.  Many still feel that way.   McCarthyism happened "because of [our] country's history".   Personally I find the things done in the name of "Red scare" to be unjustified, but a "vast majority" felt otherwise and still do.  

    It's easy enough to diss Nazis.  It's like dissing the Westboro Baptist Church -- everybody can get on board.  But when you substitute some OTHER flavor marginalized opinion, you have to worry about the abstract principles involved.  Another example is that times are not so long ago when Gay Pride events were routinely suppressed.  It seemed mighty clear to most people that openly advocating "perversion" was well worthy of legal consequences.  

    Do I think Germany should change it's law?  No, actually, I'm fine with it.  But I do think there are real complexities that merit real attention.    

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 12:13:35 PM PST

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    •  nevertheless (5+ / 0-)
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      lgmcp, translatorpro, citisven, Just Bob, Smoh

      the national socialists are the only group singled out in the grundgesetz. no one outlawed die Linke, of which I am a member, or even the salafists.  so long as one is not advocating violent overthrow, they can really say what they.

      The National Democrats (Die Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands), the successors to the National Socialist, are legal (for now, until more is uncovered about their support of the Zwickau terrorist cell - they are on the verge of being banned)

      just no hitler salutes, swastikas or ss flags

      BTW, just to make it more complicated, political parties also get subsidies - so if you pay taxes, you indirectly financially support the NPD, something they exploit and people are rightly pissed about, at least in my circles.

      Don't be a dick, be a Democrat! Oppose CPI cuts! Support Social Security and Veteran Benefits!

      by Jeffersonian Democrat on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 12:31:57 PM PST

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