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  •  Why Social Security, even for Ryan? (5+ / 0-)
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    MPociask, ColoTim, cocinero, argomd, Vatexia

    Yes, he will want to crush Medicare to get his magic asterisk/unicorn-based budget to work.

    But Social Security is not in the federal budget (it is a cash flow item, buying Treasuries using Social Security tax collections). So....what do I not understand?

    •  I think (12+ / 0-)

      You have to think about it irrationally from their standpoint.  They simply have a deep ideological hatred of SS.  It's never had anything to do with economics.  This and they are pure ideologues.    

      "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

      by dankester on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 01:39:44 PM PST

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      •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

        Ryan has no way to balance in 10 years without cutting SS, which is why Jed included the quote from Mike Simpson:

        "I have said to my constituents, nobody is talking about changing Social Security and Medicare if you’re 55 years or over.’ I’ve been selling it for three or four years that way. So have many other members. Well, to balance in 10, that 55 years is going to move up to 58, 59, 60. It makes us look like we’re going back on what we were telling people when we were trying to sell this."
        I am pretty sure Simpson knows this is coming.
        The t-bags want only ideological purity above all reason and pragmatism.

        GOP implosion in 3... 2... 1...

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