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View Diary: Republicans sure make for sore losers- Minnesota Edition (17 comments)

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  •  I'm sending (6+ / 0-)

    your link to my sister in Minneapolis.  This stuff drives her crazy(er).  ;-}

    "The light which puts out our sight is darkness to us." Thoreau

    by NancyWH on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 02:07:55 PM PST

    •  Um... this change - it's a new change, right? (2+ / 0-)
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      NancyWH, chimene

      The Republicans did not have it in place when they were in charge?

      Personally, I think there should be ample opportunity to offer amendments to bills.

      What happens if a bill is submitted with less than 24 hours notice?  No one gets to propose amendments?

      •  The reasoning behind the 24 hour rule (4+ / 0-)

        it affects both parties by making sure the public can
        see and examine amendments for 1 day before they are brought up on the floor.

        It also actually limits the power of the majority Democrats.
        For instance, if the Democrats wanted to impose some last
        minute major changes to a bill during a late night floor debate,  they would be unable to do so.

        This is a major change, but is a good government solution.

        •  If it limits the power of the majority then why (0+ / 0-)

          would the minority object?

          Why not make the rule effective after the next election?

          •  It also affects the minority by (2+ / 0-)
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            TheDuckManCometh, Minnesota Deb

            limiting the ability to throw up last minute "protest" and "silly" or "gotcha" amendments.

            Obviously, the 160 (or 159) amendments placed on non controversial bills show their ability to ACTUALLY place amendments is indeed unlimited. They just have to plan better.

            Some of the opposition position is played up in Republican "sky is falling" rhetoric with little basis in reality.

            There are still opportunities to make last minute changes using Roberts Rules of Order including laying on the table, re-referral back to committee, and/ or voting to temporarily suspending the rules.

            I can see a situation in which new important information comes to light on an issue.

            It will be interesting to see how this all plays in the chaotic last few days of the session.

            Bottom Line: For the Republicans, they have two option:,  They can put up a crap fest and try to slow down the pace of legislation, or they can take a seat at the table to try to help the Democrats create meaningful legislation for the people of Minnesota.

          •  why not make it effective now, so that (2+ / 0-)
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            Intheknow, techno

            the government can, you know, actually accomplish something before the next election?
            After watching the Republicans trash my state for the last few years, I am ready for some action.

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