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  •  I disagree with the Duggers' choices (6+ / 0-)

    and, frankly, disapprove of them. I think th eir child-rearing practices come damned clsoe to child abuse--if those kids tried tog et jobs doing some of the thigns they do on the property, no one would dare hrie them. You don't let 13 year olds use heavy equipment--except on the privacy of their parents' property.  

    Still, disagreeing and disapproving though I am, I would not take away their rights to make thsi chocie *though I DO think we can limit how many kids you get to deduct on your income tax---a change I would support).

    The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

    by irishwitch on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 05:26:01 PM PST

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    •  good point - about tax policy (2+ / 0-)
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      I'd divert that into early childhood education.

      Say, for example, tax break for the first two kids, and after that what would have been a tax break for the 3rd child and so on would go to prenatal care for someone else (1st two pregnancies) and part-time developmental daycare beginning at age 2.

    •  The oldest girls raise the kids (5+ / 0-)

      "Mother of the Year" Michelle (according to some Xtian organizations) doesn't raise her kids once they are around 6 months old.  One of the older girls, Jessa, seems to be in charge of schooling although that likely skirts, if not outright breaks, Arkansas law.  The kids are getting a piss-poor education at the School of the Dining Room Table.  None of the kids are allowed to attend a brick-and-mortar college, even one as conservative as Bob Jones or Hyles-Anderson.

      The youngest kids are just running wild. They are also not getting screenings that they would get if they attended public school. Several of the youngest kids seem delayed especially the youngest Josie who is a micro premie.  The Duggars are so bent on their claims that Josie is perfectly normal that she is unlikely to get the follow-up therapy she needs.

      Their friends, the Bateses, are not much, if any, better. They have 19 kids. Their daughter Erin is able to attend classes at Crown College, an extremely conservative fundamentalist school in Tennessem but only if she is chaperoned to class. Erin had to turn down a music scholarship to UT.  Mama Kelly Bates has to take hormone injections to sustain pregnancy at this point.  Hormone injections seem hypocritical if you are set on leaving your fertility up to god.

      •  Duggar kids are taught (4+ / 0-)

        to read, write and do basic arithmetic by someone (likely, as you sou suggest, an older girl).  Then they do everything via computer. I suspect it's either the one from Pensacola Christian College (having lived in that town, I am all too familiar with the school and what it stands for--bleeech) or a similar one.   Arkansas doesn't seem to care so long sa they pass the GED exam and "graduate". Of course, this IS the state that put away the West Memphis Three  as Satanic killers based on absolutely no evidence other than a parole officer and sheriff's personal dislike of the Goth kids and the testimony of soemone who claimed to be an occult expert whose degree came from a mail-in diploma mill...they did no DNA testing (and this was 92).

        You hit the nail on the head about their child-rearing style.  I feel like the older kids are unpaid nursemaids, teachers, housemaids and home repair and yardwork people.  They have no childhood. The Bateses seem the same way.

        This type of fundy Christian does not regard education beyond the asics as important, so natch college doesn't matter to them--unless one of the kids got the Call and wanted to beclome a preacher. SInce the Duggers attend a non-denominational church (I think it's some form of Baptist but not SBC which at least has real seminaries to ordain ministers)  where just getting the Call is enough (you don't need no stinkin' degree to read the Bah-bul), I doubt even then they'd see a need for it.

        And god help the kids who turns out tobe gay--with 19 kids, there's a good chance statistically that 1 or 2 of them are.

        The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

        by irishwitch on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:35:11 PM PST

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        •  That's been my thoughts (2+ / 0-)
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          About at least one being gay. The chances are high, and that poor child will really be lost, not understanding what the deal is.

          Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

          by splashy on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 09:24:06 PM PST

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    •  I think it's child abuse too (2+ / 0-)
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      Especially for the girls, who are expected to take care of everyone else when they are not ready to, which means that children are raising children.

      Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

      by splashy on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 08:57:59 PM PST

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