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  •  Choice--and the Canada argument (2+ / 0-)
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    marykk, Whatithink

    Canada has no laws about abortion and 1/7 the number of abortions than the US. WHy? National Health Care.

    I oppose abortion, because I feel it is too often the choice of desperate women.

    I support free birth control (and define it as any medication in the first few weeks.) I support complete, wrap-around health care so that the ability to support a child well will not be any factor in a woman's decision. I support the strong, aggressive defense of women (or any gender) who are threatened in any way.

    When we remove finances, health care, threats and social stigma from the table, now we really have "choice." The government has no place in the doctor's office. But freed from all the threats that the conservatives want to make women into brood mares, I trust women to make the best choices with advice from those they choose to consult.

    And when they do, I support complete government help for their child's needs...from birth, through free preschool, through end-of-live care.

    •  That's food for thought (5+ / 0-)

      although even with good community supports, there will always be those situations in which the woman decides there are sound reasons for discontinuing the pregnancy.  Even universal availability of Plan B will not eliminate all those situations.

      If you think you're too small to be effective, you've never been in the dark with a mosquito.

      by marykk on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 06:04:48 PM PST

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      •  Nope. (5+ / 0-)

        And that is why abortion must be legal.

        And so many of the folks who want to ban it--are the oens sneaking around to the backdoor of the clinic with their kids because the onoy good abortions are for rape (maybe), health of the mother (maybe) and theirs.

        The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

        by irishwitch on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 06:07:17 PM PST

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      •  I AGREE (5+ / 0-)

        Because the government has no place beyond my front door or beyond the door of my doctor's office.

        Those "constitution addicts" who think they know history need to think hard about that line about "no quartering of troops." What the "Founding Fathers" were saying is that privacy starts--and ends-at your front door.

        But that said, I don't believe that choices are "free" unless we commit to one another that health and wellness choices will be supported by all of us.

        A case in point: In Florida Governor Skeletor is cutting women with income between $11000 and $20000 from Medicare. An abortion costs ~$300, a delivery ~$10,000.
        What would you choose?

        I'm saying that we must trust women. But to do that, we must tell them that their choices will be supported.

        •  quartering troops (0+ / 0-)

          have you read this?

          the purpose of the second amendment is to promote a well-regulated militia, in the same sense that the purpose of the first amendment is to promote a well-informed electorate.

          by happymisanthropy on Mon Feb 18, 2013 at 07:18:42 PM PST

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