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  •  Definitely some (2+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY, DCCyclone

    But I imagine that there are also still some conservative voters out there who don't want to vote for someone who isn't white precisely because they aren't white, no matter how good their Republican bonafides are.

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    by David Nir on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 07:30:35 PM PST

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    •  I tend to agree in suspecting a glass ceiling... (2+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY, gabjoh

      ...on the GOP side for the Presidency.  I suspect they still would be uncomfortable with a Jindal or a Rubio or a Cruz as the actual GOP nominee, and that might prove an issue going forward.

      I could be wrong, as you, too, could, but there is still heavy discomfort there with people of color.

      I've explained before people like Scott and Rubio are  helped by cross-cutting tribal loyalty to party and ideology by whites who otherwise really are racist.  Racism is simply a form of tribalism, just a much more violent form in American culture than partisan or ideological tribalism.  But there are plenty of white racists who will accept a black or Hispanic conservative, at least a genuine teabagger like Scott or Cruz, as a tribal brother on a basis that trumps race.  But somehow I suspect some of these same people would flinch at the Presidency.

      It's no different from how so many white Southerners and other racists for many years were comfortable with black running backs, but still not black quarterbacks.  The President is a quarterback.  These people are going to include many who flinch at a black quarterback on their own team.

      44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

      by DCCyclone on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 09:32:31 PM PST

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      •  My theory on what makes minority candidates (2+ / 0-)
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        "acceptable" to racist has more to do with whether they "confirm" the racist's world view about most of the population, although as you said, there may be a glass ceiling for even that. They do this in multiple ways, through complaining about minorities and welfare (see Allen West's "modern day slavery) and anti-Arab racism. Bonus points of they complain about how white liberals are the real racists and engaged in some sort of conspiracy specifically against conservatives of color.

        Your point about tribalism is also a good one, and I suspect most of these people would prefer an equally reactionary white guy over even a bonafide black teabagger.

        •  Good examples, and let's not forget... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...the segregationists were all Democrats and a Republican abolished slavery!  Those things exculpate Jesse Helms and his fans completely!

          44, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

          by DCCyclone on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 07:35:47 AM PST

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