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    President Obama's political machine, Organizing for America, helped coordinate some of the protests. But this week one official there stressed that "this is all being driven by the folks on the ground."

    The new approach from national leaders seems to be: Help where you can, but don't toot your horn about it. And that's fine with the unions.

    "We're not asking him to organize us; we can organize ourselves," said Gerry Hudson, executive vice president for the Service Employees International Union, during a Wednesday protest outside Wisconsin's offices in Washington, D.C.

    ..Gerry Hudson, executive vice president for the Service Employees International Union, during a Wednesday protest outside Wisconsin's offices in Washington, D.C... said he appreciates Obama's support but doesn't need his help. He fears that if the White House is too vocal, the controversy in Wisconsin and elsewhere may appear to be engineered from outside rather than a grassroots response to behavior that labor activists view as union-busting

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    I may not be from Wisconsin.  But I got into some heated battles on strategy at the time because I feared this was a beachhead.  I don't think it does any good to try to rewrite history.

    "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

    by justmy2 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 05:28:43 PM PST

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    •  Just keep on insulting us... (15+ / 0-)

      ...with your selective memory. You have absolutely no clue and you have proven it with your comments.

      Like I said, us backwoods idiots from Wisconsin will just bow to your wisdom.

      "Republicans only care about the rich" - My late Father (-8.25, -7.85)

      by Mark E Andersen on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 06:43:31 PM PST

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    •  One union leader who lives in Washington DC (8+ / 0-)

      does not speak for a Wisconsin grassroots effort to recall a governor. You can pull up every freaking interview that was made on National Public Radio and it still won’t prove anything.

      Since you don’t live in Wisconsin, you don’t have any clue about what really happened here and how the campaign really went. All you know is what you read on some blog, saw on the Ed Show or heard on the radio on your way to work.

      Rather than comparing Wisconsin to Ohio, picking fights by telling Wisconsinites they are “making excuses” and trying to prove things with quotes from a national radio station from a national labor leader, you should just stop. This is a blog. Your strategies of last year went out to cyber space and were only read by a few people in Wisconsin.

      What happened in Wisconsin was part of a much larger, nationwide conservative political plan that had been in the works a long, long time. We had no way to know what was planned or how it was going to be implemented. We were blindsided.

      Initially many people in Wisconsin thought that Obama would help, but it became very clear early on that he would not intervene. That Obama would not “put on his walking shoes" to walk with labor. Obama did not want to imperil his re-election by getting entangled in Wisconsin state politics.  Obama lost a lot of votes in Wisconsin because he didn’t help.

      We made the decision that we could do it without him and we told ourselves that Obama's intervention could make things worse. So we soldiered on and we did our best with what we had. Grassroots volunteers with paintbrushes and homemade signs vs. the billionaires.

      If it was a Hollywood movie, we would’ve won it all.

      "We are slow to realize that democracy is a life; and involves continual struggle." ~ "Fighting Bob" - Robert M. LaFollette Sr.

      by Sand Hill Crane on Tue Feb 19, 2013 at 10:07:54 PM PST

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      •  Anyone who believes that Barack Obama is on the (1+ / 0-)
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        side of labor and of public sector unions does not know what he or she is talking about.  He and Arne Duncan are pursuing education policies that are unjustifiable in terms of improving education and only serve the forces that are trying to end public sector unions, e.g. teachers' unions.  Barack Obama is completely two-faced because he vacuums up money from public sector union members and he knows that.  But he does not serve their interests, in fact he promotes policies that oppose their interests.

        The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

        by helfenburg on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 03:41:06 AM PST

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    •  Wisconsin didn't lose the midwest swing states, (1+ / 0-)
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      the national Dems did under the leadership of conservadems Rahm & Kane.

      If The Badgers made a bad choice or two trying to clean up the mess the national leadership created, they had few options and billionaire bank accounts to contend with.

      You should look at Dem voter turn out in 2010 & 2012 in Wis. and the other midwest states and try to figure why the numbers and enthusiasm were so different and STOP insulting people while you are doing it.  

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