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  •  False. (3+ / 0-)
    Both accepted the local only strategy with minimal offline OFA support with Republicans pouring money into the state.
    Yeah that would have been a bad idea.  Which is why it's a good thing that only happened in your fantasy world and not in reality.  

    The failure was down to two basic things: 1 - far less money for Dems to put rebuttal ads on the air, which has more to do with who the corporate backers are for republicans than for your false calims about the amount of effort put in by democrats, and 2 - if there was a tactical error it was when dems decided not to go negative in the ads.  The few Dem ads that did get on the air were far too often geared to say "here's why Tom Berrett is good" instead of "here's why Scott Walker is bad".  That might be proper advice in a normal election, but NOT in a recall, where saying your candidate is better is not sufficient - you must show why the incumbent isn't just the worse choice of the two but is in fact so utterly bad that it warrants the drastic measure of kicking him out prematurely.

    Oh, and yes there's plenty of inconsistency in your statements.

    •  You can make all the assertions that you one (0+ / 0-)

      and like I said, I know it hurts.  But the record is there.  National Dems wanted no part of it.  And Wisconsin Dems only started asking for help when things started looking grim.

      The time to ask wasn't at the end.  It was at the beginning.  And this was just another example of poor strategy in fear of who knows what at the time.
      Yes, when things started looking bad, the recriminations began.  We need DNC help.  I agreed.  But the difference was I said it from day one, when the protests started.   The in April/May, when polling was working, the calls for help came in.

      It is all out there.  I was here, railing against national dems and people saying they wanted them out, during the actual session when they left the state, during the petition drive, and the recall.  Actually, lost a "dkos" friend because I so aggressive about why this needed to be nationalized. So now to hear people tell me that I am wrong for basically stating the same thing I said then and telling me it didn't happen, just seems odd.

      "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

      by justmy2 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 07:21:10 AM PST

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      •  Liar. (0+ / 0-)

        Covering up your earlier lies by telling more of them doesn't help your case.  And lay off the "I know it hurts" condescending bullshit.  The requests for national help started right away despite your willingness to lie about this fact.

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