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  •  You don't get nearly the mileage range in the (7+ / 0-)

    Entry-level tesla as the ones being reviewed. You're really only getting a commuter car. And the $57,400 (which Tesla just announced it's raising to 59,900) is the price after the $7500 federal tax credit. So the price actually bumps into the mid $60k range, until you file your taxes next year.

    That's pretty spendy for a commuter car.

    To get the 300 mile range, you're looking at mid $80k,  depending on the packages you choose, a bit more. Plus sales tax. Plus service, which is pre-paid. No Tesla facility near you? That's cool; they come to you, for only several hundred dollars more.

    So rough calculations, a $95k- 100k car upfront, and your tax credit(s) later.

    For financing, Tesla expects you to put at least $25k down, depending on the model/package you buy, which, no kidding, who wants to finance that much of a depreciating asset?

    This is not a car intended for the middle class. I don't this Tesla really pretends it is.

    I'm not knocking it at all. Tesla is filling a hole in the market, and there appears to be a big market, from what I can see. But this isn't a car for most folks.

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    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 12:44:50 AM PST

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    •  I agree totally. (2+ / 0-)
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      I hope that they will end up bringing in a new line for those of us who think spending 20-25K is a lot to spend on a car.  

      "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

      by newfie on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 05:31:44 AM PST

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      •  Not for a while (2+ / 0-)
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        They need to ramp up volume which means they need to sell enough of the current line to expand production facilities to make a new line to sell to expand production facilities, wash rinse repeat a few cycles.

        And of course the chargers need to spread along all our major highways

        I'd say we're at least 15 years away.

        "Don't be defeatist, dear. It's very middle class." - Violet Crawley

        by nightsweat on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 06:45:13 AM PST

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    •  Musk's stated goals.. (4+ / 0-)

      have pretty much always been to drive the market throguh building enthusiasm for electric vehicles by building top end cars.  Musk has said that he would consider getting out-sold in the EV market by the traditional companies a success.

      They entered into the market not with a competitor to the Leaf or the Prius, but with a competitor to the Viper, the Corvette, the 911 - Pretty much the opposite of a general consumer vehicle. Their next targets are pretty much the whole BMW and Cadillac lines.

      Taken as a whole; I can't consider Tesla Motors as a serious attempt to sell cars en masse to all of us. Rather, it seems to be meant an antidote, if you will, to the failures of the EV-1. A firework message that electric vehicle doesn't have to mean a souped up golf cart.

      •  Exactly. (1+ / 0-)
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        Really cool trends tend to trickle down.  My husband and I will walk through a parking lot and observe how many cars look like BMWs.

        It's not that BMW build their cars to look like Hondas, but rather smart mid range car companies get on board quickly.

        Notice how many phones being advertised look almost exactly like iPhones? No coincidence there...

        If everyone drove a Tesla, Ferrari would build an electric vehicle that the affluent would actually want.

        © grover


        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 11:12:00 AM PST

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