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  •  perhaps (7+ / 0-)

    But there are counter-balancing forces as well.

    Poor urbanites, black white, and latino (typically Democrats) also have high birth rates.  Latinos, who are more liberal than the general population, also have high birth rates.

    Birth rates are also not enough.  If you have 6 kids, but 1 dies, 2 end up in prison, etc, 2 more live in abject poverty, than it might be the same as one Liberal family having two bright, college bound, upper middle class Liberal children.  This is a multi-generational effect.  If evolutionary success was just dependent on birth rate, than humas would have no concept of marriage, as men would go around and just sire as many children as possible.  We don't do that because it isn't a good strategy.  A stable multi-generational household is a better strategy for making sure not only that you propagate your genetics, but that your children will also be able to propagate their(your) genetics.

    Finally,  for real evolution to take place, where one genotype succeeds another, the birthrate and survival rate can't just be different, it has to be drastically different.  A religious conservative family having 3 children vs a Liberal family having 2 children doesn't have enough effect to cause that to happen.

    So I predict there will be an increasing split for the foreseeable future into conservative and liberal 'bunches', and perhaps for some further, slight but measurable, physiological changes to result from that, but that unless there was a selective pressure, like a Liberal-hating meteor, that could wipe out an entire generation, then what we will have is a dynamic equilibrium population balance that fluctuates slightly back and forth depending on economic climates and social fads.

    •  Furthermore (7+ / 0-)

      There is no guarantee that all three children of the conservative family will be conservatives (or as conservative as their parents) as adults.

      For evidence, consider how views on issues like marriage equality differ among the various age cohorts. Clearly, younger generations do not always faithfully replicate the conservative attitudes of their elders.

    •  I heard of an academic paper that studied this... (5+ / 0-)

      Apparently genetics is a better predictor of political views than where and how one was raised.

      Adopted children and twins separated at birth resembled their biological families in terms of attitudes and brain patterns than their raising families.

      Side point: I note also that the USA is in the 3rd decade of a fundamentalist/evangelical ascendency. The intense religious focus on dogma no doubt concentrates mate-seeking into a smaller, more like-minded subgroup.

      •  I think the working class has been well and truly (8+ / 0-)

        screwed and their fear and anger are being exploited, directedt towards scapegoats and not real solutions. And the Democratic Party hasn't exactly been their champion - in fact, the Democratic Party has been involved in the screwing, so that could explain why they don't look to the left for answers to their plight.

        The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

        by helfenburg on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 12:02:10 PM PST

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    •  You must not have a working knowledge of RW'ers, (6+ / 0-)

      many of them literally believe in 'kill the libruls', Rwanda style.
      Do not underestimate them, your life depends on it. Many RW'ers, teabaggers, Rethugs, really are that extreme now, they might not always vocalize it, but it is there under the surface.
      Outside of that, I agree with all your comments.

      but that unless there was a selective pressure, like a Liberal-hating meteor, that could wipe out an entire generation

      "Double, double, toile and trouble; Fire burne, and Cauldron bubble... By the pricking of my Thumbes, Something wicked this way comes": Republicans!!. . Willkommen im Vierten Reich! Sie haben keine Bedeutung mehr.

      by Bluefin on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 12:03:22 PM PST

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      •  Killing Liberals as a ponderable idea is (1+ / 0-)
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        the direct result of decades of escalating rightwing propaganda, dehumanizing us and vilifying us. Not just our ideas. Us.

        I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it. - Paul Krugman

        by Gentle Giant on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 07:38:45 PM PST

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