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  •  The Maricopa are a Yuman speaking people, (6+ / 0-)

         not Hohokam. Name derivation here ☛ Maricopa People

    The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

    by Azazello on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 05:03:54 PM PST

    •  Calfiornia's "Camino Real" connected (4+ / 0-)

      the missions and presidios in Alta California. The mission at San Diego, the southernmost on the Camino Real, was founded in 1769. Geo. Washington was born in 1732.

      The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

      by Azazello on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 05:12:43 PM PST

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        I embellished a lot on this,  but only in general: Cabeza de Vaca came through about 1450 if I recall correctly (an absolutely amazing story of survival), Marcos de Niza ( for whom the high school next to where the town hall in question happened is named) about 1539 . The wagon commerce and a diverse complexity of modern western expansion started in robust activity just after the civil war ( which was in some measure paid for with Arizona Gold) .

        Ride for the High Country

        by The Ex Cowboy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:24:22 PM PST

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        •  My great-great-great grandfather came through (0+ / 0-)

          in 1856, carrying the first mail from the afore-mentioned San Antonio to San Diego, via the Jackass Mail.  In those days the jackasses kept right on going...

          He made the mistake of coming back, in 1879, and was shot and killed in Fairbank (AZ), outside of Tombstone, in 1884.

          "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

          by Bisbonian on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 02:39:02 PM PST

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      I would never mean to Imply that Hohokham were the same as Maricopa, that would be offensively bad. My understanding is that the Hohokham ( the  ones who came before who were probably Ino-Aztecan and came earlier than, but in mass at about 1100 ad. )or the T'hono Odam or other related "southoftheGila" people's had provided the root name which the Spanish adulterated into Maricopa. human patayan had roots to the coast I believe connected to Sandiegito and possibly sinodonts who along with ( and I am stretching so please correct me) the Navajo and Apache were Athabaskan. in other words The Maricopa came from ice age Chinese/Alaska/Bering straight migrants about 12,500 years ago variously while the Hohokham brought parrots corn and ball courts starting right around the common era.

      In any case and my point I hope I made sarcastically is that many entire cultures and religions and societies moved into and successfully dwelled in the river shed defined areas that include what we only recently call Phoenix. which is a variant from Greek era used because Pumpkinville seemed a bit silly when General Irwin McDowell started paying Jack Swilling to grow hay there for his mounted garrison based at the Yavapai-Apache Fort/Reservation bearing his name.

      Ride for the High Country

      by The Ex Cowboy on Wed Feb 20, 2013 at 09:37:11 PM PST

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