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  •  Half of Galtism is I think correct. (2+ / 0-)
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    Rogneid, Bisbonian

    The problem is that its supporters have it all wrong about who the true wealth generators are.

    Without the middle class and innovative class (STEM workers) this nation is nothing.

    These groups of people are responsible for supporting the wealthy who act as a giant leach, and the poor to working poor who even when able to find work , are unable to produce enough for society to sustain their own life.

    Our economic /social  systems need to be re-worked to both put more people in these needed areas' and value them more when compared to the other groups.

    It is not OK to life high on the dog watching as your indentured servants work tirelessly while you contribute nothing.  

    It is not OK to live off of social assistance and be content to never make a meaningful positive impact if you have another choice.

    As a preemptive to counter, counter point in my last paragraph. Yes there are welfare queens. No they are not rich but yes they simply are glad to take with no hope of ever giving back. I call bullshit on your calling bullshit. I know enough of these people from my own life and even have a few in my non-nuclear family.

    •  and i call bullshit on your calling bullshit, etc. (10+ / 0-)

      "Yes there are welfare queens."

      no such animal, and never really has been one. maybe a "welfare serf", but no princesses or queens. apparently, you missed the entire decade of the 1990's. that would be the decade that saw bill clinton (along with every state government) re-do welfare. it now has a maximum useful life, for any one person, hardly long enough to become a serf, much less a queen. previously, you could be on welfare forever, but again, you weren't going to get beyond subsistence-level living, there was certainly no coronation in your immediate or long-term future.

      "welfare queen" was a term created by ronald reagan, it was a total fiction, as part of the racist, republican "southern strategy". it was a commonly held belief that the vast majority of welfare recipients were black. enraging southern voters, by leading them to believe that their "hard earned tax dollars" were being given away to "lazy, shiftless" blacks, was thought to be a sure-fire way of getting them to vote GOP, because they (reagan, etc) promised to, if not eliminate social welfare programs entirely, substantially reduce the federal dollars supporting them. it worked. the reality of course, is that the majority of people on welfare are white, simply because they represent the single largest population demographic.

      so blow it out your ass, because there is not now, nor has there ever been, such a thing as a "welfare queen", because it's never been fiscally possible, absent illegal acts.

      •  I'm somewhere in between you two. (1+ / 0-)
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        Whatithink

        The right wing likes to portray anybody receiving government assistance (well, at least non-corporate government assistance) as lazy and shiftless.  The left wing likes to pretend that everybody receiving governming assistance is a victim and is willing to contribute to society if they are just given a hand.

        I think most people realize that neither picture is entirely accurate and that the people receiving assistance are a diverse group and encompass each of these stereotypes and many people in between.  I personally haven't seen the data to say whether or not the people on government assistance are more likely to be lazy and shiftless or they really just need a little bit of a hand and they could be relativley self-sufficient.

        But there is a way to find out and also to do it in such a way that increases personal responsibility (which the right wing likes to tout) while improving upon the safety net (which is a goal of the left).  But my guess is that the ideologues on both sides would be against it.

        We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

        by theotherside on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 07:47:11 AM PST

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