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  •  Its not quite that easy (4.00)
    If it were simply a conflict between Sunni and the Shia and Kurds it would be much easier, but now its become the world's magnet for international terrorists and that won't stop if we leave or not. There is a reason Dean has refused to say we have to leave Iraq now and it isn't for political reasons.

    The only hope Iraq has from turning into an all out civil war where regardless of all the risks we would have to leave is if the Sunni community likes the Constitution with its brand of federalism and votes for it and decides to vote in the December election and supports who they elected. The next 5 months will determine if Iraq will be covered in blood for years if not decades. And, my hope for the Iraqis really transends politics for me, I want the Iraqis to succed regardless of what I think of Bush or the war.

    •  These clowns are too stupid... (none)
      To stop a Civil War.

      Could Kerry have?  Probably.  Does Bush have a shot at it?  No way.

    •  The Grand Illusion (none)
      "...now its become the world's magnet for international terrorists and that won't stop if we leave or not."

      The reason Iraq has turned to a magnet is because we're there. Once we leave, Iraq is de-magnetized.

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      ...I want the Iraqis to succeed regardless of what I think of Bush or the war."

      You're not saying anything, unless you're insunuating that those of us who want the troops out now are somehow hoping for an Al Qaeda victory. If so, you're sadly mistaken. Point is that we caused this shit to happen to Iraq. We're the only ones who can fix it. Not the Sunnis, or the Kurds, or the Shiites. And certainly not some constitutional paper. And the only way to do so is for us to get out. The sooner the better!

      "The next 5 months will determine if Iraq will be covered in blood for years if not decades."

      Sorry, but I think you're living in a grand illusion if you think we'll fix Iraq with 5 more months of the same shit they've been getting from us for the past 2 years and more. The answer, IMHO, to avoid Iraq continuing to be covered in blood for years to come is to pull out. And even if you're right, how many more years of covering our troops in blood are you willing to accept? Unless you really believe that we're keeping AQ out of the US by covering Iraq in blood. And if you do, I've got a great deal on a bridge in NYC for you.

      Iraq is deja vu all over again.

      by chuco35 on Fri Jun 03, 2005 at 08:51:47 AM PDT

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    •  Where have you been? (none)
      It is a civil war.  Look at the news, every dang day!!!

      A 3 way civil war with US caught in the middle.

      See soonergrunt's diaries for more info....

      "You can't awaken a man who pretends to be asleep."-Navajo saying.

      by quartzite on Fri Jun 03, 2005 at 09:30:42 AM PDT

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