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  •  There's been preliminary research (18+ / 0-)

    along these lines for years.  I keep trying to educate people when it comes up, but even women trying to defend its use often didn't seem to realize what the research actually says.  It's all very well and good to defend the concept of a hypothetical Plan B that did affect fertilized eggs, but we don't have to.

    Thanks for bringing this up, and I hope it reaches a few more ears.

    •  However, does the research prove that it never (5+ / 0-)
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      works by preventing implantation?  Because even if it only works by preventing implantation one time in a thousand or even one time in a million (instead of the old 1 in 10 number) that would be too much for the forced birthers.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 09:41:29 AM PST

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      •  Which is totally wierd (13+ / 0-)

        It's just in the last 20 years that even pro-lifers started focusing on 'fertilization' rather than 'conception'.  A horrid step backwards (in both time and timeline).

        Minority rights should never be subject to majority vote.

        by lostboyjim on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 09:56:46 AM PST

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      •  It's pretty definitive by now (2+ / 0-)
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        Quote from the diary:

        "But it turns out, at least when it comes to Plan B, there is now fairly definitive research that shows the only way it works is by preventing ovulation, and therefore, fertilization."

        Key word only.  Meaning there's reason to believe that prevention of implantation simply doesn't or can't happen by use of this drug.

        •  Plan B web site still says (1+ / 0-)
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          Plan B One-Step® is one pill that has a higher dose of levonorgestrel, a hormone found in many birth control pills that healthcare professionals have been prescribing for several decades. Plan B One-Step® works in a similar way to help prevent pregnancy from happening. It works mainly by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary. It is possible that Plan B One-Step® may also work by preventing fertilization of an egg (the uniting of the sperm with the egg) or by preventing attachment (implantation) to the uterus (womb).
          Hence, the 1 in a 1,000,000 argument.

          Having had my tubes tied, it doesn't matter to me personally, but I imagine those looking to use such a drug wish it prevented implantation as it would cover more cases.

          Even Democrats can be asses. Look at Rahm Emanuel.

          by Helpless on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 04:21:08 PM PST

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      •  Effectively, yes. (1+ / 0-)
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        It's as proven as it's ever going to get. Of course you can't prove a negative-- but at this point there's stronger clinical evidence that breastfeeding prevents implantation than that hormonal birth control (including Plan B) does.

        Anyone could make up anything and claim it might hypothetically prevent implantation-- but since you can't prove a negative, no one could absolutely finally with no uncertainty prove that whatever you made up didn't ever, ever, ever, even once, interfere with implantation. Like this: I think riding bicycles interferes with implantation. I think artificial sweeteners interfere with implantation. I think kayaking interferes with implantation.

        I'm sure I could come up with a plausible physiological mechanism if you gave me a few minutes, and then we could get some ignorant assholes all excited about the immorality of bicycles, artificial sweeteners, and/or kayaks.

        •  But of course that is just an excuse as what they (0+ / 0-)

          really want is to punish "immoral" women.  Hell, they would probably make unwed expectant mothers not only be required to use natural unmedicated childbirth but take Naloxone/Naltrexone (an opiate antagonist) which will nullify the effect of Lamaze, hypnobirthing and other such techniques.  Yes, they are that evil and sick.

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 07:48:30 PM PST

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