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  •  I contacted by Delegate about this yesterday (4+ / 0-)
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    Tim Hugo's office told me he is opposed to this and said that this provision does not make sense.

    Now, I am all in favor of having hybrids/alternative fuel cars pay their fair share.   I drive a Volt and in the lat year I racked up over 20,000 miles while only buying 4.5 gallons of gas.  

    However, it should make sense and not penalize energy efficient vehicles and work as a disincentive for energy efficient vehicles.

    The tax should be based on miles driven, not a flat tax per vehicle.   If the green car drives only 5,000 miles / year, $100 is awfully draconian.

    Hopefully this will be overturned, but you never know from this state!  

    •  But that's not logistically attractive (0+ / 0-)

      To collect $100 you really can't get into a monitoring and record-keeping regime.  Cars occupy roads and tear them up, so I can't really argue against some smallish flat charge for cars that don't use gas.  Ideally hybrids wouldn't be taxes and therefor disincentivized even in this smallish way, but that's federalism for you: the national government has a huge interest in people driving hybrids so we don't ruin the planet, but the state government's concern is that cars, all cars, carry infrastructure costs.

      You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

      by Rich in PA on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 09:03:26 AM PST

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      •  A hundred bucks a year is not small . (0+ / 0-)

        Plus hybrids still use gas and pay taxes already.

        Democrats give you the Bill of Rights; Republicans sell you a bill of goods!

        by barbwires on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 09:05:32 AM PST

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      •  Not that difficult (1+ / 0-)
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        In VA, all cars are required to have a state inspection.   So as part of that inspection, the mileage could be recorded.  

        Can't use the emissions inspection as EVs are exempt from that.

        Still $100 is a lot of money to tax regardless of how many miles they are driven.    What if a college student drives a Prius but they are going to an out of state school.   They may only drive the car 3 months of the year in VA, but they would still be taxed $100.

        Some hybrids get worse gas mileage than non-hybrids.   Why should those hybrids pay more than say a fuel efficient VW?

        Of course in my Volt I am averaging over 5,000 mpg right now, so my Volt probably should be taxed more.   I drive in such a way to always avoid using gasoline, but that is my choice.   I've gone a year now without using a single drop of gasoline to propel my Volt.   Only gasoline I have used was for an every 6 weeks engine run which has used a total of 0.4 gallons in the last 12 months.

        •  Not meaning to worry you but......... (0+ / 0-)

          If you have the same gas in your tank for a year you are asking for real, and expensive, trouble.  Gasoline that sits in a tank forms varnishes that plug injectors and decrease fuel pump efficiency, which calls for a major repair.  Plus, ethanol-added gasoline (and unless you specifically purchase some premium fuels only available at a few stations all gasoline is) absorbs moisture which collects in your tank and can also seriously damage your engine.  If your volt were mine I would burn a tank of fuel at least every 3 months--to rotate the stock, so to speak.  But don't take my word for it, ask your mechanic.

      •  There is NO WAY that a hybrid car causes (1+ / 0-)
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        freesia

        $100 of road damage a year.

        I'd do the math, but am too lazy/hungry right now.  

      •  If they cared about infrastructure costs, (1+ / 0-)
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        kindler

        They'd base the charge on miles driven and weight on the pavement (times the contact area).  Big trucks destroy roads much faster than small cars.

        Instead of a fair assessment, they're going after those causing less damage. Completely insane.

        I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

        by tle on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 12:16:06 PM PST

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