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  •  It makes me nervous. (1+ / 0-)
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    PorridgeGun

    What many in the progressive blogosphere never recognize about Obama is that he placates the center and right the most in his speeches when he's sneaking in a policy move that's very liberal.

    For example, he gave plenty of lip service to clean coal with his "all of the above" talk. But, the money wasted on clean coal subsidies was small compared to the money spent on clean energy. And industry execs knew very well that new regulation EPA was pushing forward will hurt them far more than the crumbs clean coal got in the stimulus. Obama doesn't always make a lot of noise when he's doing the right thing, which partly lead to the "climate silence" exaggeration.

    Now, he's pandering to environmentalists with big talk on climate change. Does that mean he's getting more aggressive or does that mean we're being placated in advance of Obama doing something we won't like? Personally, I'm not on board with the crowd who think talk is more important than action.

    •  That's why the headline ends in a question ... (2+ / 0-)
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      orlbucfan, FishOutofWater

      ...mark. Will words match action?

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 11:04:59 AM PST

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    •  Count me among those who never recognize (0+ / 0-)

      that Obama  placates the center and right  when he's sneaking in a policy move that's very liberal.

      What has he done thta is very liberal?  He is, as he has admitted, a moderate Republican circa 1983.

      •  Really? (1+ / 0-)
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        The biggest regulation of lending and wall street since the New Deal.
        The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Nader spent over a decade advocating for. But of course, as soon as Obama signed it Nader forgot he ever cared. Can't give a Democrat credit for anything, right?
        Health care reform.
        Biggest investment in clean energy and energy efficiency ever.
        New EPA protection of air and water.
        Huge investment in high speed rail and alternative transportation.
        Ending the Iraq War.
        Reducing the world's nuclear stockpile.
        Credit card and debit card regulation for consumers.
        Taking student loans back from the banks.
        The list could go on and on.

        These are all things liberals wanted before Obama did them. Does he also have to scream and shout a lot before the netroots will notice? Doesn't it get tiring to always ignore or make sad excuses to downplay the good things Obama does? Is it really so bad to celebrate an accomplishment once in a while? And yes, I know the standard list of grievances trotted out on every blog so you can save your fingers the typing. That doesn't make his accomplishments go away. I'm not going to ignore the enormity of those accomplishments just because HCR didn't include the public option or just because he didn't put on the spectacle of jailing banksters. GTFOI.

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