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  •  One step at a time, eh? n/t (4+ / 0-)

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 11:14:21 AM PST

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    •  Point taken, but Keystone really is a (0+ / 0-)

      non-issue with regard to the ultimate goal, and takes away from US credibility given our use of the Canadian oil.

      I would just like to see us focus on places where we can make a real difference and not get sidetracked on things that get our dander up but don't much matter in the scheme of things.

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      by dinotrac on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 11:25:21 AM PST

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      •  You really need to take a closer look... (9+ / 0-)

        ...at the political tactics motivating the growing opposition to Keystone.

        Take a look at every reform movement in American history and you'll see the same kind of kvetching over what the people who are in the front lines of making a real difference have decided to expend their energy on. It's what the politicians told the suffragists, what the Kennedys told the Freedom Riders,  and what certain other people told the fighters for marriage equality: You're doing it all wrong. If you would just [FILL IN THE BLANK], then something would get done.

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 11:34:50 AM PST

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        •  Maybe so, but the suffragists were agitating for (0+ / 0-)

          the vote, not whether people opposing the vote could pass through town.

          Ditto the Freedom Riders: they were after something real and meaningful -- and riding courageously into the teeth of the problem itself.

          Want to be like the Freedom Riders?
          Agitate for an end to Canadian oil imports.

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          by dinotrac on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 11:57:42 AM PST

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          •  They were taking it one step at a time... (7+ / 0-)

            ...not agitating for everything at once. I worked closely with a Freedom Rider as part of Mississippi voter registration in Freedom Summer three years after the Freedom Rides. Climate activists won't be ending their battle whatever happens regarding Keystone. There are many fronts upon which lay siege to the old mentality. And, I guarantee you when the time comes to reject use of Canadian tar-sands oil, we'll be hearing some people making the same arguments about that not being the proper course of action.

            Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

            by Meteor Blades on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 12:07:38 PM PST

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