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  •  I have heard about the parochialism of Oregonians. (1+ / 0-)
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    Gygaxian

    Now I see what it looks like.

    For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

    by Anne Elk on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 12:18:38 PM PST

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    •  I appreciate the depth of your argument in this (4+ / 0-)

      comment.

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 12:26:27 PM PST

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      •  Actually, I apologize. I don't really think about (2+ / 0-)
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        Oregon at all to tell the truth. But the point is that the political system of this country is really broken. So arguing from the point of view of what you think is good for Oregon doesn't really address the larger question, does it? The CA experience has been very instructive for the rest of the country. We now have a really huge majority of non-Silly Party people in our legislature, and a pretty decent House delegation with the odd exception. Over the coming years, you will see the demise of extremists as a controlling element in the CA GOP due to the changes we have made. The changes are not instantaneous, but they are having an effect, unless you think having one Party run by rightwing extremists is a good idea.

        For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

        by Anne Elk on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 01:14:12 PM PST

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        •  if that party is in a deep minority (2+ / 0-)
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          as they have less than 1/3 of the legislature, does it really matter?

          Also, since this is a state election law in California and Washington, shouldn't we, before we declare it should be adopted in every state, actually look and see how conditions are in individual states?

          ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

          by James Allen on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 02:06:18 PM PST

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