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  •  I wasn't there and I don't know what happened (1+ / 0-)
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    but I'm not convinced the incident had to be premeditated. It's possible, for example, that she had removed the shavings receptacle to carry it across the room to the wastebin, and happened across the poor kid along the way.

    We don't know if she emptied the entire receptacle, some of it, or even if pencil shavings happened to fall out as she was walking by. What we do know is that the principal investigated the incident and, in consultation with the union determined that a short suspension was the appropriate punishment.

    After the teacher served the suspension, the mother then appears to have decided that was not sufficient punishment. As a public school teacher myself, I do not want my employment conditional to the wishes of a single disgruntled parent. I want an open and transparent disciplinary process in which I have the right to defend myself and to appeal arbitrary and unfair decisions.

    When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

    by litho on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 09:25:24 AM PST

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    •  As a teacher, when you (1+ / 0-)
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      make a mistake it is up to your principal and the school district and the parents to determine your fate. As it should be. Now, according to some, it should also be up to bloggers to determine if your punishment was enough. Doesn't sound like a reasonable way of meting out justice to me.

      •  Consequence of a Brave New World (0+ / 0-)

        whereby before the decision would have been local, even if it hit the local news, now it is different.  In the old days, the local public meant anyone in paper's distribution area; now it is anyone in the internet's distribution area which makes it universal

        •  Nah. We all get to hear about (0+ / 0-)

          everything going on all over the planet. But it is not up to people on this blog to determine the fate of the players. Some here have convinced themselves that we have that power. As crazy as that sounds, people believe it.

          •  and sometimes they actually do, it seems (0+ / 0-)

            but is it any more insane than Rush deciding some HS principal has offended his principles and siccing his dittos on the school district?  This is a new idea of community we are exploring, one the wingers have been trying to exploit for some time  

            •  Yeah, it actually is a lot like something (1+ / 0-)
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              that Rush Limbaugh would do. And your point is what, that we should be emulating him and his followers?

              •  we should be aware of it and when we make (1+ / 0-)
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                our choices, to determine which RW tactics we would be well advised to adopt and which ones to eschew.

                At any rate, we probably will remain in some degree of disagreement but I understand and respect your POV (arguing keeps me a bit in intellectual shape also)  

    •  How do we know they consulted with a union? (0+ / 0-)

      Just asking. In Texas, I wouldn't say teacher's unions are nonexistent.  But Texas is a right to work state. Wonder what influence a union would have on personnel matters?

      •  In the original reporting (0+ / 0-)

        they quoted the local union president, who defended the suspension as the appropriate disciplinary response.  You can find a brief statement by the local president here and more extensive commentary here.

        When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

        by litho on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 02:45:01 PM PST

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      •  BTW, looking over that second link (0+ / 0-)

        she was suspended  for two weeks and  received a formal reprimand.  That's an awful lot more than a slap on the wrist.

        The union denies categorically race was a motivating factor in her actions.

        When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

        by litho on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 02:48:12 PM PST

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