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  •  Maybe someday we will long for the good old days (2+ / 0-)
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    when "only" 100k + were shot (one every 5 minutes), because people like you describe could easily get us up over 1/2 million shot per year or one every minute!

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 05:45:54 AM PST

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    •  The thing I find strange is (5+ / 0-)
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      Around 1965 my brother and I would steal money from our drunken dads pants if he had any left after his Friday night poker games .We would buy guns from the ads in The American Rifleman. Included in our purchases was the 12 dollar Italian rifle Oswald used to kill President Kennedy.We shot our
      Pinocchio doll with it in a wagon pulled by our poor dog to see if the shots were possible...seemed to be...but my point is we had guns,other kids had guns but the idea of shooting people just didn't enter the picture....fist fight sure but shooting people....something else is causing this besides all these guns

      •  used to in school we would duck hunt in the (2+ / 0-)
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        morning and go to school with the gun racks full.  Never any problem with them the same as our habitually carrying knives.  Growing up on a farm, you quickly learned if you had your pants on, you had a pocketknife.  Most of us carried two or three knives as a matter of routine without any thought.    

      •  You forgot to say "guns don't kill ..." In 1965 (3+ / 0-)

        we did not have anywhere near one gun for every person in our Country.  In addition, the guns were not able to fire dozens of rounds in a couple of seconds (semi-automatics were rare as most were rifles, as you describe, or revolvers).  Most importantly, gun owners were really proud of their safety training and insisted that safety rules we more important than the firearms themselves (I know as I was taught to shoot in the 1960s by several kind gun owners), these days it seems like many gun owners are just as proud of their ignorance on gun safety as Republicans are of their ignorance on so many issues - why else would we have so many "accidental" shootings? (the gun owners I knew in the past called these negligence shootings).

        Sure it is true that our society has changed (and not for the better in some ways), but saying that the horrendous gun violence problem we have is only societal and it has nothing to do with the fact that guns have proliferated greatly, laws have been weakened, and the NRA's gun Cult advocates - and distributes - more guns to everyone as a way to reduce violence.

        Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

        by DefendOurConstitution on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 07:16:58 AM PST

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        •  Number of guns 1965 (0+ / 0-)

          You may be right on that but we bought a M1 and a M 1 carbine,a Luger and a 45 via the mail.We also bought a silencer kit ( big fans of the man from Unkle)"""we never got into trouble till my mom was forced to get a job.Then things went a bit overboard...The biggest danger in our neighborhood was Tina the Boker a Korean War dog returned to the world.Tied up on a 100 foot chain,She was a force of nature and if you even were 99 feet away you were hers,

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