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  •  Sunni insurgency? (none)
    Repeating Right wing talking points?

    where are the nayssayers?

    Great diary Susan.

    Where are the fucking naysayers?

    You know who you are. Come here and tell us it is not a Sunni insurgency.

    Riverbend says what now?

    The SCOTUS is Extraordinary.

    by Armando on Fri Jun 03, 2005 at 10:53:43 AM PDT

    •  I will come here and say.. (none)
      ..that there are still those on DKos who see all of this as an enormous error by Bushco, as some sort of extreme incompetence by military  planners, as a gross miscalculation by the Commander-in-Chief, as a refusal to accept reality by the White House. In doing so, they are singing to the hymn sheet that the Republicans most want us to use.

      Yes, Armando, it is an insurgency but it is also a civil war, it is also a growing sectarian hatred and  it is also a holy Islamic Jihad in a violent response to American and allied invasion. It is all of these things.

      It was there in the example given for the last fifteen to twenty years in the text books of the American military colleges for all to read. It was built into the intelligence upon which the Pentagon models and scenarios were based.

      No, we should never see this as some sort of mistake. It was a callous, coldly calculated gamble that recognised that the loss of American lives could be minimised but a significant loss of Iraqi civilian lives was an inevitable collateral of an occupation.

      The only "mistake" was in the degree of resistance and the enormity of the death toll that is on the extreme end of the planning scenario. This happens in business and war but the computer models allow for such divergence.

      But never, ever think that the bomb that blows up that group of children is somehow divorced from the calculations that took place in the bowels of the Pentagon and still take place today.

      To do so is to denigrate your military and to cast scorn on the expertise of your fellow Americans. To do so ignores the truth and accepts the framing that this administration would prefer you to adopt for these events.

      This was no mistake, this was the foreseeable consequence of the invasion. It was part of the ruthless exercise of military might to achieve political ends.

      This crime against humanity is a coldly assessed gamble - it is only that the house has raised the ceiling of the stakes to be played to stay at the table. Let those who were suckered into getting into the game protest at what they believe was poor judgement by the experienced gamblers who invited them to join. The experienced gamblers knew that it would evolve into the need to keep chasing the throw of the dice until one side or the other was spent. These men know that the end of the session has not been reached , the losers and winners have not yet been determined and only the size of those losses is now more clearly perceived.  

      The culpability of our nations is not in the mistakes that have been made but in the planned possibilities we were prepared to countenance.

      New International Times, the place where Kossacks and the world meet.

      by Welshman on Sat Jun 04, 2005 at 04:25:58 AM PDT

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