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  •  I'm glad it got fixed (0+ / 0-)

    Great diary! Only one comment, and it's a nitpicky demurral: Hanna actually deserves the label of moderate, not `moderate'. He's so moderate, he almost isn't a Republican.

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    by MichaelNY on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 01:55:29 AM PST

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    •  Thanks but I have to disagree (0+ / 0-)

      Hanna might come off as moderate on social issues, but anyone who voted for the Ryan budget isn't a moderate in my book. If I'm not mistaken his overall record is still to the right of Mike McIntyre and Jim Matheson.

      •  Yes it is (0+ / 0-)

        But he's a Republican, and I think it's quite clear that he's the least conservative of all House Republicans. He told women to fund the Democratic Party, for God's sake! If that's still a fake moderate, I give up, really.

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        by MichaelNY on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 03:19:33 PM PST

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        •  I've said it before and I'll say it again (0+ / 0-)

          actions speak a hell of a lot louder than words. Hanna postures as a moderate but his voting record sure isn't.

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          In sharp contrast to Mike McIntyre's
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          Hanna is in the same range as people like Chris Smith whom I wouldn't exactly call a moderate.

          •  Chris Smith (1+ / 0-)
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            didn't tell woman to send money to the Democratic Party. That's an action, not just empty words.

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            by MichaelNY on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 05:23:58 PM PST

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            •  Certainly true, but I think that is outweighed (1+ / 0-)
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              by the actual voting record. When Hanna said women should contribute to the Democrats, that indicated to me that he might (or even probably is) be personally moderate, but his voting record as a Republican congressman is still that of a conservative as are all other Republicans in congress.

              Essentially I don't care at all what one's personal beliefs are in assessing whether one is a moderate, conservative, or liberal, otherwise someone like Jim Matheson would definitely not be a conservative. Voting records are what have the most impact and therefore should carry a lot more weight than words or even speeches like Hanna's that admitted Democrats were better for women.

              •  I understand your point of view (0+ / 0-)

                But I would still say that for a Republican, Hanna is as moderate as we get nowadays in the House, and actually, Chris Smith is fairly moderate, too, though not on issues like abortion.

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                by MichaelNY on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 06:41:55 PM PST

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