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  •  A Lot Of It Is Paranoia (4+ / 0-)
    Nothing freaks out a white conservative more than the idea of that "The Other" would do what they would do. Shaft somebody who is different completely if they hold all the cards and they run the system.
    I've long held the view that much of the fear aimed at black folks from whites when it comes to crime, trial, juries and punishment stems from projection of guilt (and thus fear). In that world-view, if black folks are allowed to prosecute and potentially convict whites that they will remember how many whites either supported or assented to slavery, and fear revenge for that. The most obvious sign of that, to me, is from the whites who like to make statements such as, "slavery was ended over 100 years ago," etcetera.

    So, and I ask the people in this thread who are defending Sen. Grassley's point-of-view, how much of your fear, yes blatant and obvious fear behind the rhetoric is what I see, is driven, as Grassley's certainly is, by guilt over what whites did to NDNs over the years. In other words, good hearted people, why do you have no faith that NDN juries on rezs could be objective? Is that how little you think of natives, that all are shallow and revenge-minded? And, is that projection on your part? I think that it is. I think that Grassley's position is projection as well. If I lived in Iowa I would call him on it (even though I'm pretty sure his staff would just round file such a comment).

    "We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other." ~ RFK

    by paz3 on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 09:51:21 AM PST

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    •  I agree with the first half of your first (0+ / 0-)

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      However you go on basically stating that various minorities are to be trusted meanwhile white people are not.

      Yes white people are guilty of many racial persecutions.

      But your belief that these other ethnic groups are pure of heart and would not do the same is simply make believe.  In American history white people have been consistently on top and thus the ones responsible for the most significant persecutions.

      However this is not something unique about whites. There is nothing special that has made them extra evil.

      There are countless examples of every race and creed persecuting the shit outa eachother when given the opportunity.

      It is a fair fear to think that if the tables were reversed the persecutor would turn into the persecuted. This is backed up by historical record in various other nations. As such all people / ethnicity  should be treated equally under the law. Its feels dirty to have African Americans convinced under an all white jury. It should feel just as dirty in this situation.

      If your going to have blind faith in humanities ability to have objectivity over race when it comes to a fair trial, try not to single out white people and say everyone else will act fair but you, you people are not to be trusted.

      •  Clarification... (0+ / 0-)
        Is that how little you think of natives, that all are shallow and revenge-minded? And, is that projection on your part? I think that it is.
        Maybe you thought that I was condemning all whites; I just wasn't clear that my intent was calling out those who seemed to be exhibiting Sen. Grassley's paranoia.
        If you're going to have blind faith in humanity’s ability to have objectivity over race when it comes to a fair trial, try not to single out white people and say everyone else will act fair but you, you people are not to be trusted.
        I don't have blind faith in any race's potential objectivity. I just, again, was addressing those supporting Grassley's position.

        Then again, and this applies to all races or ethnicities, the dominant culture over Millennia have abused that position, and suppressed or murdered minorities, so I'm calling out whites in the US in that light as the dominant culture of the day.

        "We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other." ~ RFK

        by paz3 on Wed Feb 27, 2013 at 10:57:04 AM PST

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