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  •  No. (10+ / 0-)

    Our destruction? First of all, who is 'our' or 'we'? Americans? Citizens of industrialized countries?

    Secondly, our destruction in what sense? That we're no longer the world's richest nation? That some kind of cataclysmic event will occur?

    Nations rise and fall. Such is the nature of history. I hardly consider that destructive.

    Forgive me, but I never really understand such questions, because life is far more resilient than greed or ideology.

    •  The destruction of the US as a technological (2+ / 0-)
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      society period.  Probably with at least 50 to 100 million dead if not more in the US alone and a return to an agricultural if not hunter-gatherer society in this country.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 08:20:44 AM PST

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      •  I've been reading a very well written book, (1+ / 0-)
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        The Long Emergency,
        by James Howard Kunstler.

        He says we will be pretty much out of oil and natural gas
        within just a few more decades.

        I've been writing commentary on it,
        with my own extrapolation.

        http://www.dailykos.com/...

        That's a link to my latest.

        I'm posing as a poet,
        but I'm really an overpopulation alarmist,
        and I truly agree with you,
        and so does Kunstler.

        Back to the farms and ranches,
        along with hunting and fishing.

        To build a stable America,
        or North American continent,
        with whatever governments might exist here,
        we will need to simply have less humans,
        getting our food from the land in more old fashioned ways.

        I hope the die-off from famines
        doesn't cause some craziness
        that slows down the rebuilding.

        I especially hope the die-off
        does not inspire the survivors to breed like rabbits.

        That's an unfortunate facet of human nature;
        50 million died in WWII,
        resulting in the baby boom,
        resulting in me and my three sisters and my brother.

        The following generation of survivors will need
        a great deal of land for each family style group,
        so that when they have a drought,
        they can simply move to other land,
        land that does not have anyone on it.

        Seems to me.

    •  Yes AND No. (7+ / 0-)

      Yes, the greed is powerful.  More than ever before?  No, I don't believe so.  The funny thing about it is that it's a Catch-22:  When the greedy become politically powerful and gobble up everything is sight, their situation becomes tenuous.  Tenuous because, in their destruction of everything that ensures a decent life for the middle class, they create an angry mob so to speak.  An angry mob who is mad at them.  And so the scales tip back.  The more they take, the more despised they are.  They aren't smart enough to appear magnanimous.  And therein lies their conundrum.  The more they take, the more people they alienate.  And there are more of us than them.  We just have to continue to use our power.  I think the 2010 election was anomaly:  They were able to scare enough seniors to the polls with Obamacare.  But the trend is definately in the opposite direction.  Unfortunately, it'll take years to correct that particular anomaly.  

      •  It depends on how far (3+ / 0-)

        things have to go,in order to make the scales tip. Right now, things are more out of whack than they have ever been in our lifetimes, and it's become commonplace (at least around here) to consider this the second Gilded Age.

        We were able to emerge from the first Gilded Age still a republic, but not without quite a lot of human misery, and some violence along the way. I, for one, would not want to live through another Great Depression, nor need blood shed in the interests of labor, to right ourselves once more. I'm not optimistic that will happen.

        "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

        by sidnora on Wed Feb 27, 2013 at 05:44:10 AM PST

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    •  Yeah, except Climate Change. (6+ / 0-)

      Fucks all that 'human history' shit right up. If we don't get the greed in check, in 200 years, it's gonna make the Dark Ages look like a highlight of human history.

      Physics is bulls**t. Don't let them fool you. Fire IS magic.

      by Pescadero Bill on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 08:55:49 PM PST

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