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  •  I agree with almost everything you wrote. (2+ / 0-)
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    The impact of the cuts has been studied; I would argue it is far from "unknown", even though it is hard to foresee every aspect. From a Republican perspective, you would have it down, though, since they reject any and all forms of analysis that rely upon science.

    "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

    by bryduck on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 10:37:01 AM PST

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    •  there are theoretical studies of the impact (0+ / 0-)

      of the cuts, but ultimately you wouldn't fully know the impact, of what would get cut in practice and the economic impact of that.

      •  Then how do you know they are (0+ / 0-)

        "probably overblown"?

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 11:08:40 AM PST

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        •  because in the real world (0+ / 0-)

          you don't need to cut jobs and benefits to deal with cuts of around 5%. You can do staggered furloughs, pay cuts, administrative cuts. That's what happens in the private sector and I've gone through it. The impact was unpleasant but not major, and I doubt the impact would be very noticeable to voters.

          I think a lot of it is just political fearmongering.

          •  All of that has to be (0+ / 0-)

            negotiated and approved by governmental agencies for public employees, and none of it can be done on a moment's notice in the public sector. If funding is cut off for ongoing public entities like water out of a faucet, which is what we're talking about, you don't get to do the things you have witnessed. Instead, people get laid off. Immediately. Because there is no $ to pay them on the next payday. This has happened before, and that's what happened before.

            "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

            by bryduck on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 11:40:10 AM PST

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          •  Furloughs and pay cuts are still loss of income (0+ / 0-)

            that will ultimately harm the local economy where these furloughed employees live.  It's money removed from an already-fragile economy that will cause serious, long-term harm to an economy and loss of jobs whether at the local Walmart, fast food restaurant or car dealership.  Call it fearmongering if you like, but it's still going to be a reality.  If you don't think so - look at the losses on the stock market yesterday. But hey, if you want to stick your head in the sand - be my guest.   Oh - the reason you didn't see it as major is because the federal government pumped money into the economy known as the "Stimulus," cushioning you from the serious devastation that would have occurred to you without it.

            •  5% in cuts to the federal agencies (0+ / 0-)

              is not going to translate into a major hit into the economy as most of the workers are in the private sector.

              I am curious to see how the agencies and departments deal with it.

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