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  •  You're right (3+ / 0-)
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    devtob, native, liberte

    If we could get a saner group of republicans back in Congress, we might get the Democrats moving back left again.
    Of course, that is with cycling out some of our older Senate members, and getting more progressive people back in.
    That started to happen in the last election. We just need to keep the momentum going.
    A good question to ask ourselves is what is more important to us in 2014? A slim chance for getting the House back or making sure we support quality over quantity?
    Remember that the 50 state strategy is where we picked up all those blue dogs.

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Tue Feb 26, 2013 at 02:50:40 PM PST

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    •  The 50 State strategy (4+ / 0-)
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      unclebucky, native, jds1978, Aquarius40

      delivered a unified electoral message across all 50 states, it delivered a divided Democratic Party that failed to deliver on that message. The Democratic Party got punished because it could not turn out people to support a mixed message in 2010.

      The US has very highly paid political consultants who see blue seats/red seats, in every other Country they see marginal constituency v safe constituency.

      •  To add to this (0+ / 0-)

        House and Senate caucus meetings should resemble something like Battle Royale. Allow brick bats, cricket bats, boxing gloves, whatever blue dogs or the democratic wing of the Democratic Party need to win debate within the caucus.

        In public they need to be unified with one voice, the voice that gave them their seats. This is NOT new politics, except perhaps in the US.

        The public do not like being promised something and then it not being delivered because of party disunity. Remember how strong the "super majority" argument was. Also remember how strong the "jobs" argument was fir the GOP.

        Divided parties lose. The Democratic Party was united in opposition to W. They won massively in 2008. They were non committal in 2010 because of an "enthusiasm gap". In 2012 everyone was scared of a Ryan, Senate, House Trifactor. The voters delivered the best election result for a second term Democratic President ever.

        Deliver unity in 2014 and cruise to victory in 2016. Divide, then who knows what.

        •  But, the above remains true (0+ / 0-)

          When the Repblican Party is no longer a viable electoral vehical, the GOP corporate money will buy the Dem party.  Then, it will be incumbant on liberals to decide whether to flee or be belted into the back-seat.

    •  Are you really asking that? (0+ / 0-)

      3 days away from the sequester?  Whose stated strategy is to obstruct at every turn?  Of course quantity over quality. Anything is better than having the Republicans in the majority.

      Or are you saying that activist enthusiasm wins? Obviously yes in some situations, and obviously no in others.

      2014 forecast for the Senate is close (+0.5%  Dem)  how do you want to tilt that?

      I think your momentum is not about a history of an active motivated Democratic base, but rather an active over-reaching Republican one.  But 1 election does not define a trend.  Remember 2010?  

      Or are your goals more long term?  Forgo 2014, veto most things, and hang on for 2016+?  Will your "backlash" materialize?

      I believe there is the possibility for momentum as the Republican Party is obviously too far right.  But as the political composition reaction trends left, will contestable seats violently switch over from far right to far left?  No.  This will be a battle of moderates.  The Republican party is making a mistake divorcing themselves of the middle, let's not add credence to it by doing the same thing.

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