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  •  yep, Greenpeace knows it's stuff it's .... (1+ / 0-)
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    in the field

    Macca's Meatless Monday

    by VL Baker on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 07:19:08 AM PST

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    •  Here's some (2+ / 0-)
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      FG, LakeSuperior

      stats from the US Govt (that seem to support the New York Times projections) insofar as fossil fuel use in China has absolutely been skyrocketing lately with no discernable end in sight.

      And even Greenpeace has projected that the world's largest "carbon bomb" from now until 2020 is expansion of coal in China:

      The 14 projects’ annual emissions by 2020 (millions of tonnes of CO2)

      China – Coal mining – 1,400
      Australia – Coal exports – 760
      Arctic – Oil and gas drilling – 520
      Indonesia – Coal exports – 460
      USA – Coal exports – 420
      Canada – Tar sands – 420
      Iraq – Oil drilling – 420
      Brazil – Oil drilling – 330
      Gulf of Mexico – Oil drilling – 350
      Kazakhstan – Oil drilling – 290
      USA – Shale gas – 280
      Africa – gas drilling – 260
      Caspian Sea – Gas drilling – 240
      Venezuela – Tar sands – 190

      Total 6,340 million tonnes of CO2 by 2020

      Oh well, false alarm it seems.  Yay!!
    •  Just don't ask Greenpeace to get anything done (1+ / 0-)
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      locally that requires persistence and detailed technical help, as is characteristic of many controversies involving local industrial facilities.

      Greenpeace uses local citizen environmental groups by coming to town, running an organizing, PR and fundraising operation, paying token attention to regulatory processes or a public hearing, and then they leave town and you don't hear from Greenpeace again.    But the local industrial issue causing a problem remains.

      Greenpeace is not an organization that exercises environmental stewardship to address local environmental problems.   Addressing serious problems involving high emitted cement plants, power plants, hazardous waste combustion operations, paper mills, petroleum refineries and synthetic organic chemical manufacturing requires the exercise of such stewardship and the application of several scientific and engineering disciplines.   However, all Greenpeace wants to do is use the local environmental problem and the local citizens as a backdrop for public relations.....and then they leave town.

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