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  •  Hard to understand your comment. (1+ / 0-)
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    Do you think many/most Dems (or Barack Obama) want severe spending cuts?  

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    by TomP on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 09:03:23 AM PST

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    •  I think it's snark? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 09:26:33 AM PST

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      •  Voting for the sequester (0+ / 0-)

        wasn't exactly a monopartisan thang.

        •  The 2011 "deals" to avert the debt crisis (1+ / 0-)
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          may well have been mistaken (although Obama and a Dem senate were re-elected).  And I think Obama made some mistakes in giving verbal and other support to cutting the defict too soon.  But most has been driven by the Republcians.  From Jan. 2009 to Jan. 2011, when there was a Dem Congress and Dem President, there was stimulus, not deficit reduction.  

          So I think some nuance is required.  Defict reduction (now) has been driven mostly by Republicans.  I would criticize Obama for soem tactical choices, but the R House is driving the austerity.

          Some leftists here seem to get lost in the anti-Obama and anti-Democratic Party rhetoric and lsoe, in my view, perspective.  

          The revolution people claimed that Occupy was ushering in never happened.  

          In the end, reformers like Bernie Sanders and left-of-center moderates like Barack Obama seem the opnly path forward.  

          No doubt, you disagree.  


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          by TomP on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 09:55:34 AM PST

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        •  As you will recall (0+ / 0-)

          the sequester was the way Republicans were persuaded to allow the debt ceiling to be increased, avoiding a default that would likely have collapsed our economy and much else besides.

    •  I think that was supposed to be "filibuster" (1+ / 0-)
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      Had the filibuster been eliminated entirely the "let the President decide how to implement GOP cuts" bill, having an actual chance of passing with 50 votes, would have been much harder to defeat.  Democrats would have been tempted by the power and would have needed vote-whipping.

      •  Yes. (0+ / 0-)


        When 1% take 121% of the gains from "recovery", people actually recovering from lost employment are trading down on wages and benefits. Current strategies by moderates don't even consider winning the Class War.

        by Words In Action on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 10:13:17 AM PST

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      •  Not over their own bill. (0+ / 0-)

        The senators themselves would not have gained the power, Obama would.  They could care less if it's not about them.  But there's no way they would choose the GOP bill over their own.   If there had been filibuster reform, it's possible that their own bill would be even stronger.

        The priest said, "Today's sermon is called 'Liars', but first I have a question. How many of you have read Chapter 66 in Matthew?" Nearly every hand went up. "You're just the group I need to speak to," the priest said. "There's no such chapter."

        by Back In Blue on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 10:14:08 AM PST

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