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  •  each gun transfer occurs w/ a full title history? (1+ / 0-)
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    Glen The Plumber

    ...how do the buyer and seller verify that title history?

    Can the "scale of the peer to peer trade" accurately be called "small scale" or "negligible"?

    And rephrased from above, who verifies that the "auditing requirements" are being met?

    Cheers.

    •  Re: (0+ / 0-)

      Yes, each transfer occurs with full title history.

      Appends to the history can be digitally signed and verified to guard against both repudiability and forgery.  

      Law enforcement can audit buyers and sellers when the need arises (in the midst of an investigation, with warrant in hand).

      •  so your system requires internet access...? (2+ / 0-)
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        Glen The Plumber, decembersue

        ...for all potential buyers and sellers, and a great big database of personal identifiers and digital signatures, along with all of the specific guns owned by specific people.

        What happens if a private buyer or seller determines that a firearm's title history is broken?

        And, repeating an unanswered question...

        Can the "scale of the peer to peer trade" accurately be called "small scale" or "negligible"?
        Cheers.
        •  Re: (0+ / 0-)

          You'll need a central authority for background checks, but not for anything else.  The keys (which you can expire periodically to ensure up to date background check information) and history store will be entirely in possession of parties to the transfer.

          THe question of what happens to a buyer and/or seller when a break in the history is discovered is a matter of law.  If someone attempts to reintroduce a criminally transferred gun into the legitimate secondary market, the break will be immediately evident.  I assume law would require the recipient to report the incident.  As it stands now, even a national registry has to deal with non-compliance of this sort; either you're honestly participating in the system or you're evading it illegally.

          •  so, there's no verification of title history... (0+ / 0-)

            ...described in your system?

            You do propose, however, a "central authority" for background checks, with personal identifiers, digital signatures, and no info about specific guns that might be owned.

            Who's that "central authority", what is their level of authority, and to whom are they accountable?

            Of course, a break in title is a matter of law, that's why I'm asking...

            What happens if a private buyer or seller determines that a firearm's title history is broken?
            So, what's the law gonna require?

            And, repeating an again unanswered question...

            Can the "scale of the peer to peer trade" accurately be called "small scale" or "negligible"?
            Cheers.

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