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  •  Huh... I guess I dont get it then (1+ / 0-)
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    Ms Pris

    What joke would be mocking someone getting raped?  Thats not a joke as much as just an insult.

    Ive never seen Family Guy so I don't know the character you are referencing.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 11:22:15 AM PST

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    •  Some comedians don't seem to mark a difference. (9+ / 0-)

      For example, Quagmire is a self acknowledged rapist, and in more episodes than I can count he's seen pulling an unconscious woman into a deserted area, or doing something like raping a woman "until she likes it" (made obvious by the sounds of protest off screen that eventually turn into sounds of enjoyment), to which other characters respond, "Who else but Quagmire! :D"

      I get why it's supposed to be funny - because they are treating his behavior as nothing out of the ordinary. I just think in light of the rape culture in this country that it's not funny, and socially irresponsible.

      Again, I don't mean to pick on MacFarlane or Family Guy specifically - it's just easy to draw examples from there because I'm familiar with the show.

    •  Tosh (6+ / 0-)

      this issue really flared up with Tosh 'joked' about a heckler getting raped.  

      He said (as memory serves) "you should be raped. wouldn't it be funny if you were gang raped right now?"

      That's an extreme example (she was heckling him by saying that "rape is not funny" when he made a rape joke), but many comedians flocked to his defense.  

      •  i'm not a comic, but tosh was right- (0+ / 0-)

        people pay good money to hear the comic talk, not to listen to an audience member talk. if you're rude and dumb enough to heckle a comic, you deserve what you get.

        was the heckler raped? no. was she made to realize she shouldn't bother the talent and audience w/ her nonsense? i hope so.

        and i can't stand daniel tosh. i just hate hecklers.

        "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

        by thankgodforairamerica on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 03:39:22 PM PST

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        •  Calling out rape (1+ / 0-)
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          is not "nonsense." To call it that only underscores the acceptance of what Tosh said. Somehow, in some quarters, it's more acceptable to make rape jokes and suggest that it would also be funny to gang-rape whomever objects, than to call out rape jokes.

          "If you heckle a comic, you deserve what you get" says it all. "If you're a comic who can't handle hecklers, you're in the wrong business" would be my addition. There are always going to be hecklers, and she wasn't doing it just to heckle--she was objecting to people laughing at horrific attacks and terrible human suffering.

          Rape is not a closed issue in society. It's not universally condemned. Quite the opposite. As long as women are still living with daily fear and caution, and victim-blaming is still common, and you can still indicate the percentage of rapists who actually do any jail time using one or two hands (depending on whose estimate you go by), no, rape jokes that extend rape culture, like Tosh's, are not funny. They're lazy and mean-spirited, and that's being nice about it.

          There are rape jokes out there that are great. They point up rape culture, shine a light on the fear women live with every day, and put rapists in their place. And they're really funny.

          Tosh and his lame jokes, not funny at all. He needs to go back to the drawing board and create material that is actually humorous. Shock value is not the same thing as humor. So many comedians don't get that. There's no point to their nastiness--they're just nasty for nasty's sake, which is lame and not funny.

          I'm amazed by people's courage and kindness in the face of everything and life.

          by LaraJones on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 08:40:22 AM PST

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          •  do you know what the joke was? (0+ / 0-)

            iirc, he replaced his sister's mace w/ silly string. she could have said silly string's not funny! siblings aren't funny! if she wants to say something, say it later, or be prepared to have the comic say whatever he wants in response.

            and i think he handled the heckler just fine.

            "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

            by thankgodforairamerica on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 09:42:53 AM PST

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      •  Tosh and Seth represent the young generation (0+ / 0-)

        of comics who make certain jokes precisely because they're in bad taste. In fact, that's what their audience finds funny--saying something you're just never supposed to say. Tosh has made jokes about being raped himself. It's a sensibility you either get or you don't. Blame Mike Judge, Trey Parker and Matt Stone for creating this new style of "tasteless" humor. The reason the Oscar producers went that route is because it's very popular with the young demographic. What startled me about the show was Ted's advice that Mark Wahlberg should pretend to be Jewish and support Israel so he could work in Hollywood. That got a big laugh. Abe Foxman expressed indignation, but nobody's really talking about that one.

        As for ambiguities about rape, there will always be this problem.  

        I never liked you and I always will.

        by Ray Blake on Thu Feb 28, 2013 at 04:07:18 PM PST

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