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  •  Remember when we complained about high costs? (0+ / 0-)

    Remember back before the ACA came along we who chirp on DK were quick to point out the American health care system spent twice as much as European systems but delivered worse results?

    Today for some reason wee chirpers have concluded dollar spending on MC must not shrink by a single dollar, or else that is proof of sinister intent.

    Call me stupid if it must be done, but I don't think American health care costs have dropped by 50% since 2008, have they? If they haven't, golly, I have to think there is still some fat to be cut from the system. Against, how stupid am I?

    •  The problem still exists, but the argument was (3+ / 0-)

      about the cost savings of single payer or public option, the first of which Obama didn't even let near the table and the second of which he threw under the bus without so much as a how'd you do.

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 11:08:33 AM PST

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      •  Yep yep PBO is a very busy man (0+ / 0-)

        So much to be done in DC, only so many buses. But he's still young and robust so he has personally done one whale of a ton of a shitload of underbus-tossing.

        Like single payer. He's said he likes the idea any number of times but the fact it would never pass Congress then and would not pass Congress today simply proves how much Barack Hussein Obama hates single payer. The evidence is compelling.

        It is so good to come to DK where one is always sure to get the nuanced view.

        •  Letting it be debated educates people and stands (0+ / 0-)

          to shift the conversation and attitudes.  Even losing can have a benefit.  Not even trying is the crime.

          Nuanced enough for you.  Indeed, giving voice to positions that wouldn't pass is also pretty pragmatic if you actually believe in changing minds and advancing policy.  It's much better than capitulating in advance on what you (supposedly) believe is a good idea.

          The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

          by accumbens on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 03:38:51 PM PST

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