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  •  It's possible to do "smart reforms" on (0+ / 0-)

    both Medicare and Social Security, but the reforms the majority of both parties have in mind, at least so far, are not at all smart.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 08:22:35 AM PST

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    •  Don't be mixing SS and Medicare, and there are (3+ / 0-)

      no "smart reforms" in any of the current "serious" bullsh_t discourse. Removing the arbitrary point at which wages stop being subject to the mandatory retirement deposit wisdom of Social Security, currently what, $113,000, would by itself make the fund "solvent," paying out only what is deposited by ALL OF US WAGE EARNERS from now until the foreseeable future. SS has NO EFFECT ON THE "DEFICIT," and a pretty low expense ratio for a retirement program/safety net floor. Privatizing, and all the other crap that is being "seriously" discussed, is not "reform." It's MURDER. Chained CPI is just a garrotte around the already thin and starving necks of people who RIGHTFULLY depended, from all the messages given out over the last 60 years and the way "the economy" has been allowed to operate (like corporate raiders stealing pension money, piss-poor minimum wage, "right to work," the Great Bail-In to the Banksters' Jet and Yacht Funds, and other shi_t)

      Medicare is a large umbrella with a lot of parts, and as a nurse I know there are problems with incentives and management and enforcement. But it is one hell of a lot better and kinder and less expensive and cruel than the "private medical UNSURE-ance" with its built-in abuses and fraud and theft, and its own perverse incentives (profit for investors and corporate executive pay, versus paying for actual health care and medication, with no incentives to control costs except as between the Big Players.

      "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

      by jm214 on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 09:39:30 AM PST

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      •  How can any Democrat have the unmitigated gall (7+ / 0-)

        to brag about proposing to cut Social Security benefits without even asking them to raise the cap on payroll tax contributions?  

        I cannot even wrap my mind around this.  I do not understand why there is no push back.

        I mean where are you Al Franken?  Aren't you running for the Senate.  WHY aren't you fighting against this?  Minnesota has some of the longest living old women on earth and you are not fighting to protect them against the lying superlative CPI?  

        Where are the progressives?  Are they all gone?  Are we just going to have Pelosi dressed in Armani delivering the bad news?

    •  Not With Social Security (0+ / 0-)

      First, there's no need for reform.

      Second, please explain to me the logic of cutting SS benefits now for society's most vulnerable members SO that they don't have to be cut in the future!

      Third, please explicate why cutting SS benefits is preferable to raising the ceiling on taxable SS income?

      If I was a communist, rich men would fear me...And the opposite applies. The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

      by stewarjt on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 10:42:32 AM PST

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      •  I didn't say "cutting SS benefits is preferable to (0+ / 0-)

        raising the ceiling on taxable SS income."  I said it was possible to do smart reforms.  Raising the ceiling on income subject to the FICA tax would be a smart reform, and it should be done as soon as possible so the country wouldn't have to have this discussion again for at least 75 years.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 12:23:24 AM PST

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