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  •  Tipped and recced ... but ... (2+ / 0-)
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    edrie, nellgwen

    You are watching a San Francisco station. Not that much of a surprise to me! And I'm in NYC, where we'd love this type of news coverage from our local stations. The rest of the country is even more fucked in general.

    Happy that this is appearing anywhere on live media outlets.

    But there's no replacement for print media ... anywhere!

    "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." - David Frum

    by Glinda on Fri Mar 01, 2013 at 09:55:39 PM PST

    •  once upon a time, nyc HAD this type of coverage (3+ / 0-)
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      because of al green, mariam (please forgive me, i've forgotten your last name but never your face), tony brunton, peter wells, doug edwards, uncle walt, charles kuralt, charlie osgood (bless him, he's still here), bill whitney (he's still around, doing good, too) and many more at cbs - then we had frank reynolds, roger mudd and more respectible JOURNALISTS - but the talking heads made money.

      why?  "happy news" - and thanks to roger grimsby and bill beutel doing their funny "schtick" on the 11pm news drunk as skunks (between 6:30pm and 11pm broadcasts, they were at chip's pub getting plastered.

      every nyer loved to watch because it was so damned FUNNY to see these two intelligent men make subtle commentary (something forbidden in those days of professional journalism) - with the raise of an eyebrow, a cocked head and acerbic grin - on it went until tex antoine cracked his favorite joke immediately after a young woman was raped in central park.

      he, too, was part of the drinking buddy's evening excursions to chip's.  

      he ALSO was fired by the time the joke was finished - yanked from the air.  sadly, however, the producer and all the production staff that KNEW those three were going on camera drunk were not held accountable - it was just antoine who paid for the gross negligence that occurred.

      as for the rest of the stations - that type of broadcast by those three was the birth of "happy news" - "feel good" news made to make the watcher laugh.  it never worked.  why? because the ones trying to emulate grimsby, beutel and antoine weren't drunk.

      that is when real news began it's death spiral.  within a year or two, cronkite was forced to retire, the news division was closed and moved to entertainment, gordon van sauter (SPIt SPIT SPIT>>> PTUIIIIIEE) was put in charge to make rather stay number one - while his agenda was to stop the imagined liberal bias and interject a conservative point of view (his statements still as he mouths off where ever he can get speaking engagements.... i loathe him, but you may have already guessed.  he was a flat out jerk!  when cbs fired him, i danced in the streets!  did i mention i couldn't stand him - from the moment i saw the creep in jeans and a flannel shirt and tennis shoes sitting in em stone's office with his legs draped over the arm of the chair - he had just been made president of cbs radio network news and was signalling to em (the vp) that the "old school" was out.  oh.  and he was a jerk.  he was donald trump jerk.  then he went on to head up fox news (the newly created network in ny) - any surprise there?  nope.


      okay - it's late, i'm ranting - tired.  this stuff STILL affects me as much today as the day i saw that jerk sitting in em's office.

      signing off now.... before i start up again...

      EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

      by edrie on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 01:29:19 AM PST

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      •  Wow! That was some diatribe! And informative too. (1+ / 0-)
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        Love it!

        I don't recognize the names Green, Brunton or Wells. And I don't know any Miriam. But Whitney is on the radio. Was he ever on a local NYC news program?  As for Edwards, Cronkite, Kuralt, Osgood et al, I recall them all fondly. But did they ever do local NYC TV news?  If so it was before my time in NYC.

        I do remember Roger Grimsby and Bill Beutel. They were on the air when I first got to NYC in the 70s. They came as rather a shock to an upstate girl who had watched the very serious Buffalo TV stations.  I have no doubt that their chummy and witty news style is what ruined NYC TV news for all time.  Their descendants are just not that smart.

        Thanks for a delightful read!  I read it out loud to my husband who was born in NYC and he loved it too.

        "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." - David Frum

        by Glinda on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 11:50:04 AM PST

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        •  al and miriam were damned good editors, (0+ / 0-)

          wells - a producer, brunton was head of special events.

          whitney was on cbs radio network news when i worked there in the early 80s.  another good one was reid collins - on air reporter.

          as for grimmo and beutel's descendants not being that "smart" - they also weren't plotzed drunk, either!  a friend and i used to hang out at chips pub for the marguaritas and fried zuccinni (still the best i've ever eaten) and grimmo and beutel and antoine were ALWAYS at the end of the bar getting drunk between newscasts.  it was amazing how well they DID perform considering the state of their blood alcohol nightly.

          oh, and in case anyone doesn't believe this, my friend also was dating grimmo at the time.

          heh - we were in the city at the same time.  did you ever go to the ballet or opera?  didn't do met stuff but did do bel canto opera and bronx opera costumes, along with costumes for dancers during mid 70s to mid 80s (including joffrey).

          that was a glorious time, it was... 8^)  my corner of the world was 56th between 8th and 9th for almost a decade.  before that, littulittuly, the village and briefly, w.70th st.

          EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

          by edrie on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 12:36:54 PM PST

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          •  I was a dirt poor student (0+ / 0-)

            But I did follow jazz, mostly around Columbia but also in the Village.  Post-college I went to a lot of theater Off-Broadway mostly McNally,  Shepard, Henley, Durang, Fugard etc,  I attended a lot of dance performances as well but they were modern and avant garde dance companies (Pina Bausch, Merce Cunningham, Twyla Tharp, Lucinda Childs, Karole Armitage, Mark Morris).

            I was a downtown girl.  I went to the Mudd Club and CBs regularly and live in Chelsea, then the West Village, then off to LIC when it was very edgy.  

            My boss went to the Metropolitan Opera and got me to go on a couple of occasions but I never fell in love with it like he did.  

            I don't even know where Chip's Pub was.  I did hang out at Gough's on occasion since I had friends at the NY Times and it was just across the street.  

            In the 80s I worked at 50th and Broadway in the Paramount Plaza building. Coworkers and I would often go to a Mexican restaurant (can't recall the name) on 8th Avenue in the 50s after work for dinner and we'd regularly see Chuck Scarborough and Sue Simmons dining together. They always had their margaritas.

            "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." - David Frum

            by Glinda on Sat Mar 02, 2013 at 03:46:59 PM PST

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