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  •  You'll be happy to know that (4+ / 0-)

    West Bankers do boycott Israel. For example, the PA has outlawed settlement goods, building upon existing boycott groups. There is even debate in the Palestinian community about making it illegal to work in settlements and this is a tough issue since it will mean many unemployed and the PA does not have the resources to care for them. I'm sure that boycotting the buses will be next on the agenda. So glad to see that you are interested in the principles and consistency of the BDS movement, which is always striving to ensure that it meets the highest ethical standards.

    •  Good to know... (0+ / 0-)

      Why should there be ANY debate?  If BDS is successful then the Palestinians going into Israel to work will lose their jobs eventually anyway.  Why wait?  Let them start their boycott tomorrow - certainly you have faith in your plans.

      I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

      by Hey338Too on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 07:15:17 PM PST

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      •  Stopping work in settlements (4+ / 0-)

        will mean that lots of families go without incomes. Which means no food, education for your children, healthcare, paying bills etc. Palestinians will need to find other resources, including international assistance to keep body and soul together while they do this. Are you interested in helping out?

        •  Nope, I am interested in a two state... (0+ / 0-)

          ... solution.  With two independent entities living side by side in peace.  If you're interested in boycotts then go for it.  Put your money where your mouth is.  Obviously there is going to be collateral damage on both sides using your strategy, so why wait?  Is the pain going to be any less next week than it will be tomorrow?  You've been at this for almost 10 years right?

          I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

          by Hey338Too on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 08:46:16 PM PST

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          •  Most Palestinians favor 2 states (3+ / 0-)
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            as does the Palestinian leadership which has gone to the UN for recognition of Palestine along 1967 borders. I'm surprised that you don't get such a basic fact. You are creating enemies that you are arguing against rather than listening to what Palestinians say.

            •  Forgot the polling link (3+ / 0-)
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              here

              It's important to note that the Palestinian support for 2-states is still the majority, my understanding is that it has dropped considerably in the 2 decades of the peace process which has only brought worsening conditions for Palestinians in what is now the State of Palestine.

            •  Way to change the subject! (0+ / 0-)

              So, I'll indulge you.  Are you for a two state solution with two independent entities living side by side in peace?

              As for the subject at hand, you didn't answer my questions.

              I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

              by Hey338Too on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 09:09:47 AM PST

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              •  You're the one who brought up the subject (2+ / 0-)
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                of 2-states, not me. You don't know my views on what the solution could be and made a fool of yourself by assuming that my comment was about two-states or one or had anything to do with they type of state solution when it was actually about supporting Palestinians getting rid of the occupation.

                And whatever strategies that Palestinians want to undertake at whatever costs - like the current hunger strikes of prisoners for example - is not for me to dictate but rather for me to support, since I am not arrogant enough to instruct the Palestinians in how they should overthrow their oppressors. And I suggest you lose the arrogance that makes you think that it's acceptable for you to do so.

                As for 2-states, I've been a supporter of it since I was first exposed to the Palestinian refugee problem in the mid-1970s when I actually met many Palestinians. The fact that Israel and its supporters only came late to the party in the 1990s and used the process to expand their settlements in what should have become the State of Palestine shows me that Israel is not actually serious about allowing a sovereign state of Palestine to exist.

                And that's my last comment to you since this is a dead diary and there's no need to extend a discussion with you.

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