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  •  Hitler fought communism too. (5+ / 0-)

    Walesa is a Catholic right-winger. I will not disparage the work he has done, and I am not familiar with the breadth of his beliefs, but there is no reason to believe that he is a social "liberal" in the sense that we believe in America. He is a man of his times and generation. The Eastern Bloc seems intensely anti-gay rights.

    "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

    by shmuelman on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 10:32:52 AM PST

    •  well, he refused to speak against (5+ / 0-)

      a priest's sermon that was full of the vilest anti-semitic garbage

      Small tidbit here:

      Last Wednesday in a follow-up statement to his sermon, the priest, the Rev. Henryk Jankowski, said Jews had a "satanic greed which is responsible for Communism and World War II." In his sermon, attended by the President in Gdansk, he said the Star of David was "associated with the symbols of the swastika as well as the hammer and sickle" and called on Poles to bestir themselves against forces in the Government that might come from Russia and Israel.
      "There is a dirty reason why he didn't do it," said a close ally of Mr. Walesa's who is a prominent politician and spoke on the condition that he not be identified. "We will see anti-Semitism in the presidential campaign, we are already seeing it. And Walesa obviously stands to gain because no one claims he has Jewish roots."

      "Say little, do much" (Pirkei Avot 1:15)

      by hester on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 11:25:13 AM PST

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      •  Poland is notoriously the most antisemitic (2+ / 0-)
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        country in the western world. The number of Jews in Poland on September 1, 1939 amounted to about 3,474,000 people (from a referenced Wikipedia article). Are there even a few hundred remaining today in Warsaw?

        "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

        by shmuelman on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 01:15:48 PM PST

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        •  I know, but probably Ukranians are worse (1+ / 0-)
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          anti-semites than poles.

          Apparently when Hitler was asked why he put most of the concentration camps in Poland he replied something to the effect that it was easier to do in Poland than in Germany or Austria (which btw is/was worse than Germany).

          "Say little, do much" (Pirkei Avot 1:15)

          by hester on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 01:30:56 PM PST

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          •  Romania, Latvia, Lithuania, pre-Bolshevik Russia (1+ / 0-)
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            They didn't like us in lots of places. And did anyone ever come to our aid? Forget about it. BTW, check out the video "The Long Way Home" (http://www.imdb.com/...) to see what the Jews in Europe were subjected to after WWII and the incredible help brought to them by General Eisenhower to release them from ongoing military imprisonment.

            "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

            by shmuelman on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 08:19:13 PM PST

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        •  pretty sure.. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm pretty sure WWII had something to do with this too.  After all, Germany invaded Poland on 1 September 1939...

          Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. George Santayana

          by RAST on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 03:00:11 PM PST

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        •  Pilsudski was really good to Jews (0+ / 0-)

          unfortunately he died in 1935.

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