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  •  "clear that most Germans had to know" (12+ / 0-)

    You would think that most people in this country would have to know a lot of things too, but so many of them don't, because they get their information from the FOXNews/Rush Limbaugh wing of the American media conglomerate. The Nazis were masters of propaganda too. It's easy, with 20-20 hindsight, to see what people in Hitler's Germany should have done.

    Less easy to see when you're the frog in the pot in which the water is in the process of heating up, and you believe in your country, and you're not even capable of imagining that people could do things as horrible as what they're actually doing.

    Of course there were people who knew and did nothing, probably more often out of fear than apathy. I would like to think I'd have the courage to act in those circumstances, but I don't know if I would. And there were others who didn't know because they chose not to, after they had seen enough to make them suspicious. But "clear that most Germans had to know?" I think that's a leap.

    "These are not candidates. These are the empty stand-ins for lobbyists' policies to be legislated later." - Chimpy, 9/24/10

    by NWTerriD on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:16:37 PM PST

    •  We're all war crime enablers by most definitions. (13+ / 0-)

      Even if I knew that tomorrow the world would go to pieces, I would still plant my apple tree. -Martin Luther

      by the fan man on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 02:53:43 PM PST

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      •  yeah (2+ / 0-)
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        sadly I agree

        "These are not candidates. These are the empty stand-ins for lobbyists' policies to be legislated later." - Chimpy, 9/24/10

        by NWTerriD on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 03:35:09 PM PST

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        •  i agree too (2+ / 0-)
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          This country invades other countries, kidnaps and tortures people.
          How many countries is the US dropping bombs on now?  
          And let's not forget that the Bush family, along with others bankrolled Hitler.
          Plus the fact that the US brought some of the most heinous war criminals here.
          Bayer was complicit it the experiments done on the people in the camps.
          Germans knew what was going on.
          We also know what the US is doing and many are ok with that.
          But just how many innocent civilians does the US need to kill before we start speaking up?  
          We had Abu Garib(sp), the Apache Murder video, and we know there were other torture pictures that Obama never released.
          Yep, those of us that don't speak out or at least try to change the US war machine are enablers.

          Gitmo is a Concentration Camp. Not a Detention Center. Torture happens at Concentration Camps. Torture happens at Gitmo. How much further will US values fall? Where is YOUR outrage at what the United States does in OUR names?

          by snoopydawg on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 07:51:05 PM PST

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    •  Actually, frogs don't stay in the water. (4+ / 0-)

      They jump out.

      Ostriches don't bury their heads in the sand.

      Lemmings don't run off cliffs in suicidal charges.

      But people do do stupid things and project their stupidity onto the animal world.

      Ceterum censeo Factionem Republicanam esse delendam.

      by journeyman on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 03:42:21 PM PST

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    •  Thanks for this. It helps to be able to think (6+ / 0-)

      that many, even most, of the German people were blinded by the propaganda - the alternative is too mind boggling.

      Your comment about what most people in this country should know really caught my attention.  If a majority were to know the truth about 'entitlements', about budgets, about deficits, about corporate welfare, about 'death panels,' this country would be in a very different place!

      Really, you can pick almost any topic and most Americans would know little of the truth.

      "Don't Bet Against Us" - President Barack Obama

      by MRA NY on Sun Mar 03, 2013 at 05:01:16 PM PST

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