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  •  I would just prefer (3+ / 0-)
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    Spencer Troxell, gerrilea, annecros

    if the government decided to get out of our lives in the ways that it could, while protecting us in the ways that it constitutionally can.

    let the states be laboratories (is it strange I can only spell that from the old cartoon, Dexter's Lab?). they essentially still are today. but as these labs, cultural change can spread much more quickly. It's what will allow gay marriage to expand, it's what will allow legalized marijuana to expand (provided these things are not federally disbarred)

    As this change progresses, then, certain things that are being disbarred in a minority of states could have greater success of being federally mandated if need be.

    in a very simplistic way, Civil Rights saw this pattern of development

    setting the stage for the modern conservative

    by MWV on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 07:18:01 AM PST

    •  Too many of these "labs" (0+ / 0-)

      are strains on national resources, artificially propped up by wealthier progressive states taxes.

      Education, income, environmental, and social failures - dragging down our national scores in each.

      Many of these experiments have failed miserably, and as stand alone nations would be third world status - or belligerent militarized neighbors.

      In a capitalist democracy - every dollar is a "vote" ... spend wisely ...

      by RUNDOWN on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 09:10:02 AM PST

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      •  Those labs were funded and controlled by (0+ / 0-)

        the sycophants in government.  NGO's writing laws our paid-for politicians pass.  Labor "standards" are a prime example.

        One of the benefits I've enjoyed as a resident of NYS is the enforceable standards for unemployment.  Had I lived in Mississippi, when the company I worked for went bankrupt, I would have been denied unemployment.

        Corporations move to States with lax environmental standards, lax or non-existent labor protections and then they suck the people dry and move on.

        These States wouldn't need to be propped up if the corruption was dealt with.  But then you'd need an educated citizenry that votes.  And that's caused by the corrupt "free press" we all now must endure.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 09:19:57 AM PST

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      •  you've lost me (1+ / 0-)
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        annecros

        are you saying "better" performing states artificially hold up the others as a whole?

        If California was it's own country, then they'd have burned to the ground by now I'd imagine

        setting the stage for the modern conservative

        by MWV on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 09:56:12 AM PST

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        •  Exactly what I am saying ... (0+ / 0-)

          In a capitalist democracy - every dollar is a "vote" ... spend wisely ...

          by RUNDOWN on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 10:08:08 AM PST

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          •  what are the good performing states? (0+ / 0-)

            setting the stage for the modern conservative

            by MWV on Mon Mar 04, 2013 at 10:22:25 AM PST

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            •  You can and should do your own research. (0+ / 0-)

              I would suggest looking up statistics on, per capita income, college education, home ownership, high school graduation, welfare payouts, out of wedlock births, etc - the correlate that to federal tax dollars paid to those received, state by state.

              And learn for yourself.

              As far as California, your comment as to it "burning to the ground" - please explain how you draw that conclusion?

              In a capitalist democracy - every dollar is a "vote" ... spend wisely ...

              by RUNDOWN on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 07:05:28 AM PST

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