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  •  Obama is not (3+ / 0-)
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    1) FDR
    2) Truman
    3) LBJ
    4) Lincoln
    5) Clinton

    Those who expect him to be something he is not will be constantly disappointed.

    “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

    by skohayes on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 06:35:24 AM PST

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    •  I have to agree. (2+ / 0-)
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      That doesn't mean he's a bad man or a terrible President.  I do wish he had some of their political cunning.

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 07:24:45 AM PST

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      •  He has a lot of political cunning, (0+ / 0-)

        he's managed to outmaneuver the Republicans up until now, and as you said last week, even the sequester has a silver lining- big cuts to Defense that we haven't seen in decades.
        I think he expects too much out of the quagmire of the Senate and the Republican led House. Of course, expecting them to do their jobs doesn't seem like too much to ask, but here we are.

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 12:21:41 PM PST

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        •  Outmaneuver the Republicans? (1+ / 0-)
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          Outmaneuvering is fine so long as you're going in the right direction.

          I see very little evidence of political cunning.
          Maybe it's there and I'm just too dumb to see it.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 01:30:06 PM PST

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          •  He got Republicans to (1+ / 0-)
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            agree to raise taxes and he got reelected in a bad economy.
            Now perhaps if the Republicans were a normal party instead of the whacked out extremists they currently entertain as elected officials, it might be a different story, but you deal with the party you have, not the one you wish to have (thank you, Secretary Rumsfeld).
            :)

            “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

            by skohayes on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 02:14:14 PM PST

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            •  Getting reelected in a bad economy certainly (0+ / 0-)

              is a feather in his cap, but George Bush got re-elected in 2004.

              How cunning was that?

              LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

              by dinotrac on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 03:35:15 PM PST

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