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  •  that's always the claim isn't it? (1+ / 0-)
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    Gee, where have we heard of people being targeted for "sedition" or "insulting the president" and the like?

    Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

    by Mindful Nature on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 04:46:54 PM PST

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    •  So the media is completely untouchable (4+ / 0-)
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      no matter what they do? I suppose the UK shouldn't be going after Murdoch either. The heads of media were clearly a part of the coup.

      There were later laws that were very problematic, he was far from perfect.

      •  Nobody is perfect. (3+ / 0-)
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        But some are far less perfect than others. The degree of animosity and hostility that Chavez aroused in corporatist American power circles (including the American press) indicates to me that he must have been doing something good.

        I think it's plausible that he was no more authoritarian than he absolutely needed to be, in order to implement his agenda -- which was by and large a very laudable agenda.

        •  Too bad (0+ / 0-)

          you aren't a fan of actual democracy.  A lot of us who pay attention to human rights are well aware of the problems with the Chavez regime.  Of course, dictators the world over always claim that their repression is necessary for the greater good, don't they.

          Yes, he did some excellent things in the social arena.  However, he did'nt have to resort to the bully tactics to do it.  See, as has been pointed out, Lula's presidency in Brazil.

          Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

          by Mindful Nature on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 10:02:39 PM PST

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      •  beautiful straw man (0+ / 0-)

        too bad Chavez was attacking opponents for four years before the coup even happened.  Frankly, those who extoll Chavez have no basis for complaining about Murdoch or Bush.

        Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

        by Mindful Nature on Tue Mar 05, 2013 at 10:00:52 PM PST

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