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  •  alas, when I was just above poverty level I looked (1+ / 0-)
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    at that very same website, found out what subsidy I would get, then went to a few sites to check prices for insurance.

    The only policies I could find that the subsidy would cover were high-deductible shit policies, $2000 or so, that guaranteed I would never be able to see a doctor anyway because I could never afford the deductible.

    Has anything changed since then? I certainly don't recall hearing anything about health insurance premiums going down lately . . . . . .

    •  learn to use the calculator (3+ / 0-)
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      if you are just above poverty (133%) everything is free.

      You pay nothing.


      My kids are on it now. It's like winning the lottery.

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      by ban nock on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 08:16:42 PM PST

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      •  thanks for the snark, but I was not 133% above (1+ / 0-)
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        poverty level, so nothing was free for me. No Medicaid. As noted, the only policies I could buy with the subsidy I would get were shit $2,000-deductible policies which guaranteed I could never see a doctor anyway because I couldn't afford the deductible.

        Has that changed since then?  Or would I still be using my subsidy for a useless plan under which I still couldn't afford to get sick--just a welfare payment to the insurance companies.

        •  Or you live in a state like me... (0+ / 0-)

          such as Pennsylvania, where the asswipe governor refuses the Medicaid expansion.

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          by asterkitty on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 09:04:26 PM PST

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        •  Then we define "Just above" differently. (0+ / 0-)

          133% is a wide margin for "just above" in my book. I do agree that we define poverty a bit poorly in this country, without taking regional factors in, sure, but that's not what you said. The idea of the subsidy for people higher up isn't that it will cover everything; there is an expectation people will put SOME of their money in for healthcare to work with the subsidy.

        •  The exchanges aren't even up yet. (0+ / 0-)

          And I know for a fact that one of the plans will be a national, non-profit plan.

          You may have more options than you think.

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          by Bush Bites on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 04:43:21 AM PST

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          •  Where can (0+ / 0-)

            we find out more about the national non-profit plan?

          •  that still remains to be seen, then (0+ / 0-)

            Vaporware is pretty hard to sell.

            Will this national, non-profit plan, be anything decent that allows people to see a doctor when they need to?  Or is it another high-deductible shit plan just like the for-profit plans? How can anyone know it's "an option" until they actually SEE it and what's in it? And indeed how can we be sure that the whole "national non-profit plan" won't simply disappear en route, just like the much-vaunted "local health care clinics" did?

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