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  •  Waiting with bated breath to see what the DOJ (5+ / 0-)
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    will do in Colorado and and Washington. I can't see them not putting up a fight. But nullifying a state constitutional amendment that does not deal with denying rights, like Proposition 8 in California, seems really risky and gives off a totally oppressive message. But maybe that's the message they want to give off.

    "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

    by shmuelman on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 09:14:11 AM PST

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    •  Rather little in CO, I suspect. (6+ / 0-)

      Colorado is a swing state with deeply small-l libertarian sentiments.  If the Democrats want to lose the state for a generation, then let them crack down on marijuana.

    •  DEA sees legalization as a threat. (4+ / 0-)
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      Former DEA Heads: Nullify Colorado, Washington Marijuana Laws.

      Legalization means the end of the bureaucracy.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 11:03:09 AM PST

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    •  There have been hints... (2+ / 0-)
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      "[I]n the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone...They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand."

      by cardboardurinal on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 11:46:02 AM PST

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      •  Gil may have walked this back. (4+ / 0-)

        I think Colorado is still waiting on Holder. It is really tough in a swing state to nullify a law that was overwhelmingly passed, and does not deprive anyone of their rights like same-sex marriage bans. In fact, the facade of zero tolerance on the Federal level may be starting to crumble. We will see how intrepid drug warrior Joe Biden falls on this issue.

        "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

        by shmuelman on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 06:12:34 PM PST

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    •  well I think you're going to be disappointed on (0+ / 0-)

      that as Obama has already the DoJ has better things to do

      (and I mean disappointed in a not going to happen sense)

      In the time that I have been given,
      I am what I am

      by duhban on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 04:37:05 PM PST

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      •  I am sorry, this was a totally disingenuous, phony (2+ / 0-)
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        comment by Obama. He's waiting to see how the wind blows like he did with same-sex marriage.

        as it is, the federal government has a lot to do when it comes to criminal prosecutions," Obama said. "It does not make sense, from a prioritization point of view, for us to focus on recreational drug users in a state that has already said that under state law, that's legal."
        The Feds already don't go after recreational users. But people with state-legal grow operations are facing long sentences. I saw there is someone who is facing a 99 year sentence too for state legal distribution.

        They are busting left and right in California. They are even talking of bringing RICO prosecutions against state employees who are working on legalization.

        "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

        by shmuelman on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 06:10:00 PM PST

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        •  wow (1+ / 0-)
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          So you have no proof but you know it's all a trick?

          And somehow that's supposed to be believable?

          by the way here's some information you either didn't find in huffington or are concealing

          The judge pointed out, partly for the benefit of about 30 people who crowded the courtroom in support of Williams, that the severe sentences originally facing Williams stemmed almost solely from the gun charges, with penalities increasing for each additional weapons charge.

          But all of the many people who wrote Christensen on Williams’ behalf seemed under the impression that he could have been sentenced to 80 years for growing marijuana, the judge said.

          In reality, the mandatory minimum on the charge of possession with intent to distribute marijuana is only five years, said the judge — who sentenced Williams to the 130 days he’s already served on that particular count.

          thus it seems more that that case is less about pot and more about guns

          still we will indeed see how Obama acts but I doubt he's going to contradict himself after going on national tv

          In the time that I have been given,
          I am what I am

          by duhban on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 07:19:36 PM PST

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          •  It's not a trick... (1+ / 0-)
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            He just didn't say anything. Like I said, no one expects to have Federal troops in the streets doing shakedowns for pipes and half smoked joints.
            There are many other examples of the Feds arresting and seizing assets of marijuana growers and dispensaries because I follow it pretty regularly. I picked the top one off the stack, maybe that one had some more aspects to it. But in the end he got busted over weed growing, not guns, I am willing to bet.

            "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

            by shmuelman on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 08:21:40 AM PST

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