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  •  Nonsense..... (2+ / 0-)
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    mikejay611, defluxion10

    ....but for drones, Al Qaeda wouldn't have been decimated. And Rand Paul isn't reaching for a moral high ground. He wouldn't know such a thing if he had an elevator to it, an elevator operator and tea service on the way up to it.  He is simply trying to apply the principle that it is okay to have drones if you are a Republican President, but not if you are a Democrat.

    If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

    by Bensdad on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 12:13:41 PM PST

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    •  Al Queda was destroyed years ago. It ceased (8+ / 0-)

      to be an organization in any real sense of the word by 2007-8.

      It's not longer a thing.  It's an idea.  And you can't kill ideas with bombs - which is why there has proven to be an endless supply of "Leadership" to target.

      Every strike is creating far more terrorists than it's killing.  There's a strong case to be made that if we'd gotten the fuck out of Afghanistan the same time we got of Iraq and had refrained from this current drone rampage, there would no longer be any credible terrorist threat facing the US.

      income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

      by JesseCW on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 01:42:47 PM PST

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      •  there IS no credible terrorist threat facing the (4+ / 0-)

        United States. There never has been.

        We have the most powerful military that has ever existed in all the 200,000 year history of the human species. Our military now is BIGGER than it was when we faced the second-largest nation on earth with 70,000 multi-megaton thermonuclear weapons capable of wiping out all of human civilization in less than an hour. The very IDEA that "terrorists omigod !!!!" represent any realistic threat to the US (any more than lightning strikes or bee stings or bathtub falls do--all of which kill more Americans every year than terrorists do) is simply idiotic.

        It is all just an excuse for both parties to embrace the neocon doctrine of a permanent war and a permanent national-security state. And that road ALWAYS leads to the same place.  As it will for us. We are not exceptional.

        •  There was one big credible threat of a terrorist (2+ / 0-)
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          attack, but Bush 2's administration ignored it.

          But you're right. since 9/11, there has been no significant terrorist to the US. The War on Terror that Obama continues to pursue with his drones is pointless. The military now has armed drones, and it uses them simply because it can.

          American exceptionalism is America's road to perdition.

          by Alexandre on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 02:48:58 PM PST

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          •  9-11 was no threat to us (5+ / 0-)

            It killed a lot of innocent people and it wasn't a very nice thing to do, but it was no realistic threat to the US--militarily, existentially or otherwise.

            Car accidents kill more people in a month than 9-11 killed. Heck, the revenge war we waged in response to it killed more Americans than the terrorist attack did.

            As a society, we over-reacted, lost our minds, and did far more damage to our own country (perhaps irrevocably) than Bin Laden could ever have hoped to do.

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