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  •  yes, the Dems and Repugs are co-dependent (3+ / 0-)
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    foucaultspendulum, offgrid, DSPS owl

    The sole purpose of both is to prevent the other from getting elected (and the sole electoral strategy of both is "ok, so we suck--but THEY suck even WORSE !!!" Not a viable longterm strategy for anyone.

    Like symbionts, when one dies the other will die with it.

    There will be a major changing of the political landscape in the US, in a not very long time. And neither party will like it.

    •  I thought this for some time now (2+ / 0-)
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      DSPS owl, apimomfan2

      I think that there will end up being (at least) three Parties:

      -  A Theocratic Party - Christianists and other moralists. This will attract all of the "social issues" crowd.

      -  A Business Party - Free Market Uber Alles! Corporatists. This will draw the old-school "conservatives", and also the Blue Dogs and other Democratic corporatists, and probably a lot of libertarians.

      - A Democratic (Socialist) Party - the rest of us. A much more leftist Democratic Party

      •  our "winner-take-all" electoral system, though (1+ / 0-)
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        virtually guarantees that there will two, and only two, major parties.

        I think the fundie-Christian theocrats will leave the field and go back to their churches, where they can continue to live in tiny microcosms of their ideal theocratic world, untouched by the rest of us, and lick their wounds until they are strong enough to return again.

        It's what they did the LAST time they lost, back in the 20's.

        •  Maybe (0+ / 0-)

          The theocrats are more organized through media now though, so I don't see them going away so easily, especially if they have people like Mike Huckster and Rick Santorum around. Might even throw Rick Perry in there.

          We had three "viable" parties as little back as 1992, so it's not like it can't happen, although it might be short lived.

          If we do end up with three viable parties, we might see a push towards something like Instant Runoff Voting, or some other way for the winning party to get 50%+ of the vote

          •  it would indeed take a major change in the (2+ / 0-)
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            offgrid, apimomfan2

            electoral system to provide for a viable third party.

            Alas, neither of the two parties that currently run things has any interest in that. Why the heck WOULD they? The last thing they want is another hat in the ring.

            •  Third party (from Lenny) (0+ / 0-)

              We desperately need to change our electoral system, not just for the possiblity of third party involvement in government, but for the survival of democracy itself.  People are not voting.  They know (even on a gut level) that the system is worthless.  Why are we clumping voters into geographical units and forcing them to vote for one person whose viewpoint or party does not represent the actual majority?  If I am a Dem in a safe Rep. district, my vote will never count unless I move.  If I am a Green or other small party, it doesn't matter where I move, either.

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